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0 pointspcr9103036y ago0 comments

> How on earth do you use Emacs without an ESC key?

Hmm, I think I've never used my ESC key when using Emacs, I bind Ctrl to Caps-Lock and call it a day.

BTW, I also frequently (~3-4 times a day) use vim, and I never found it hard to edit with the Touch Bar Esc key. I can find the Esc location without looking, I'm pretty sure anyone can do that. It's just simple: just press the most left part. The non-display part left on the esc button display also works as the esc key, so no problem with that.

(Yes, and that's why I believe that people who hate the Touch Bar b.c. of the no Esc key have never used the MBP. It's really a non-issue.)

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JshWright6y ago

Well, speaking as a daily vim user, you must be much more talented than I am at using a keyboard. I could never get the hang of touch-typing the virtual ESC (especially since in certain workflows I want to be able to rest my finger on the key without pressing it).

It was the thing that finally got me to rebind my mode switch to `jj`. Which works great, until the keyboard decides that "j" is the key it's going to double that day, then it's very frustrating... Fortunately today the keys it has decided to double are "bb" and "88"

foobiekr6y ago

Ive been using one since the touchbar 15” came out and I loathe it.

There’s no physical feedback for the escape touchbar area even after you learn to strike it without looking. It sucks.

pcr910303OP6y ago

> There’s no physical feedback for the escape touchbar area even after you learn to strike it without looking.

Ah, I also agree that it's a problem. For now, I use the HapticKey[0] app to mitigate the problem. It's wonderful.

[0] https://github.com/niw/HapticKey

computerex6y ago

I used the MBP with touchbar for work. I could not live without the physical escape key, returned the laptop and settled for a Windows laptop.

jzb6y ago

"It's really a non-issue."

For you. It's a non-issue, for you. That doesn't make other people's experience invalid.

sc4les6y ago

Evil escape and binding esc to fd or jk is a game changer

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