Microsoft Reveals New Logo for Microsoft Edge (opens in new tab)

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mthoms6y ago

Firefox Developer Edition logo for comparison:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Fi...

willis9366y ago

Higher res link:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Firefox_...

judge20206y ago

While the SVG will scale to any size, Chrome has it very small on my screen and even zooming to 500% (max zoom) is smaller than the linked png.

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Razengan6y ago

Maybe I’ve seen too much games/anime, but that evokes the image of a defeated/burned out fire beast plummeting to the ground..

sdegutis6y ago

Oh wow. That’s incredibly similar.

dpcan6y ago

I don't agree, other than being blue and having some gradients.

The Edge logo looks like an "e", not a fox hugging a globe.

The new logo looks good in my opinion. It has earth tones, looks like an "e", has some edges.

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alpaca1286y ago

Wait till you see the Firefox Nightly logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Firefox_Nightly_Logo...

dyarosla6y ago

I’d say Microsoft’s new logo is far more reminiscent of Google Chromium- not Firefox.

mxfh6y ago

As far as analogies go, I think it's closest to the chromium logo [1], when kinematically interpreted as some sort of extruding shell segments [2], or blades of an aperture (Aperture Science). Overall it's visual language elements are surely intentionally aligned well centered in a space between IE ℮, Chrome and Firefox.

[1] current: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chromium_11_Logo.svg

[2] old chromium(2009-2011): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chromium_Logo.svg https://codereview.chromium.org/2806029/patch/1/61

lucideer6y ago

The Chromium logo is angular and defined, whereas Firefox/Edge both represent fluid waves sweeping circularly.

The Chromium logo is in bluish tones, and is somewhat ring/donut shapes, and beyond those two (very broad) features there are no further similarities.

See also the Firefox ecosystem logo: http://ffp4g1ylyit3jdyti1hqcvtb-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/open...

and even more striking, some of the mocks from Mozilla's design docs for future Firefox products https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11896715/S...

mxfh6y ago

There are surely multiple ways to describe similarities. The destinction between chrome and edge is not so hard to me, if seen in contrast between geometric and organic shapes. Firefox and even the mocks (since when do mockups even count, they are explorative for a reason) are way more on the organic side, while besides the last green slob, the edge logo is in strictly geometric territory. As I said there are similiarities, but then one should also bring up a mirrored Ubisoft logo, or various other Spiral/Nautilus inspired ones.

This is where I get with only a mirror and two identical rotations on different identical subgroups on the suprisingly complex chromium svg logo. (This is as far as I get in 5 minutes, but hope it conveys my interpretation). The tripartion of circular segments as most striking similiarity to me.

https://i.imgur.com/x6bpBjz.png

galonk6y ago

So, like... does EVERYONE think it looks too much like the Firefox logo, or...

mc326y ago

It’s looks more like a tsunami than a curled up Fox to me.

It’s a little reminiscent of Akamai[1] tbh.

[1]https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Akamai_logo.svg

lucideer6y ago

Yeah, but... the Firefox Browser logo also looks more like a tsunami than a curled up fox...

And that's just the browser logo. Let's not get into the Firefox ecosystem logo: http://ffp4g1ylyit3jdyti1hqcvtb-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/open...

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mehrdadn6y ago

Nope, I think it's a lot more like Chrome's.

pubby6y ago

Especially the Chromium logo, which is blue.

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tobr6y ago

That was my first thought. I’m sure I’ve seen some unsolicited re-design of the Firefox icon that looked very similar to this, but with an orange palette.

chrisseaton6y ago

Doesn't really look like a fox to me. Maybe a tadpole?

wayneftw6y ago

I hope they have as much success with this as they've had with VS Code and I'm looking forward to trying their first release of Edge on Linux. It will be great to have the choice of a non-Google, WebKit based browser from a major distributor who has the resources to keep up with and challenge Google on things like Manifest v3.

I find it somewhat ironic that the most used software I'm running on my Linux desktop, VS Code, is a free and open source Microsoft product. It's also the product that really enabled me to make the switch in comfort. Maybe soon though I'll be using Bing more too (among others like DDG) if Google decides to completely remove URLs from search result links.

Osiris6y ago

I use Vivaldi on Linux, macOS, and Windows. It's the most customizable browser I've used since Opera 12 (which makes sense, since one of the Opera founders started Vivaldi).

zapzupnz6y ago

Edge is based on Blink, not WebKit. Remember that Blink was forked from WebKit six years ago. In web time, that might as well be a century, given the leaps that have been made in web tech in browsers.

saber16y ago

The new Edge is based on Chromium (Uses Blink as the engine), so I don't think it will challenge Google on things like Manifest v3.

the_pwner2246y ago

Falkon is the KDE browser which is WebKit-based and not Google. It works on at least Linux and Windows. I believe the GNOME browser (Epiphany?) is also WebKit-based.

abrowne6y ago

GNOME Web (aka Epiphany)¹ does use WebKitGTK², but Falkon³ uses QtWebEngine⁴, which is based on Chromium. Qt integrates "the layer rendering of Chromium directly into the OpenGL scene graph of Qt Quick" and does "not containing all of Chrome/Chromium:
- Binary files are stripped out
- Auxiliary services that talk to Google platforms are stripped out

- The codebase is modularized to allow use of system libraries like OpenSSL"

So Falkon is not like Opera and this new Edge which use almost everything from Chromium, including the app shell, but it's web engine is Chromium.

1: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web/

2: https://webkitgtk.org/

3: https://www.falkon.org/

4: https://wiki.qt.io/QtWebEngine

reichardt6y ago

I believe Edge is based on Chromium not WebKit?

jdnenej6y ago

Chromium uses blink which was forked from WebKit long ago.

troymc6y ago

It reminds me of The Great Wave off Kanagawa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Wave_off_Kanagawa

ravenstine6y ago

The further they can move away from the legacy of Internet Explorer, the better.

lostgame6y ago

I only remember IE fondly from my early days of using it on OSX and Classic MacOS.

For Windows it always seemed like Netscape worked better into Firefox came along.

gen36y ago

I can totally see this confusing less technically literate people. I think too many people are trained to just click the blue E.

I think I do like it. I think it fits what Microsoft is trying to do with their design scheme.

cm21876y ago

It's the "c" of Chredge, isn't it?

ai_ja_nai6y ago

Firefox Nightly, I'd say: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1160831232357351425/dlf...

RcouF1uZ4gsC6y ago

If you rotate 180 degrees up, it looks like a “G” which I guess is appropriate as it is based on Chrome’s rendering engine.

code4tee6y ago

Looks mostly like the Firefox logo

mixmastamyk6y ago

I don’t hate it, kinda cool actually, but missing something. Perhaps text.

kaycebasques6y ago

I like it.

theclaw6y ago

I’m not sure I’m a fan. It’s like a profile shot of a laughing bulbous head. It says supermarket brand laundry detergent to me.

saghm6y ago

> It says supermarket brand laundry detergent to me

I didn't think of this before, but I don't think I'll ever be able to unsee this now

51Cards6y ago

Well now if you're colour blind you may not know if you're clicking on Firefox or Edge.

ricc6y ago

Most comments say it either looks like Firefox’s logo or Chrome’s. I think it’s kinda both.

cryptozeus6y ago

Good logo but that is not going to have anyone start using edge. They offer nothing new. I think brave is far better and innovative browser if anyone wants to try something different then chrome or FF.

thrower1236y ago

Having a good, standards compliant browser with active development by default will be something I'll much appreciate. I hope this makes it to Windows Server; I am so sick of only being able to use the extra-locked down, terrible version of IE when I have no other choice but to use a browser when remoted into a box.

rblatz6y ago

Is there a source that us with ad blockers can see?

detaro6y ago

The article links https://www.reddit.com/r/MicrosoftEdge/comments/dqpaak/new_m... as its own source

rblatz6y ago

Thank you!

adrift6y ago

It looks very underwhelming and lacks personality.

vidanay6y ago

The logo, or Edge?

GnarfGnarf6y ago

Yes.

aklemm6y ago

It screams “impending doom” to me.

hpoe6y ago

I thought they were replacing edge with Blink soon?

lucideer6y ago

They're replacing EdgeHTML (the internal engine within Edge) with Blink (the internal engine within Chromium). The name of the overall Edge product isn't changing (to my knowledge).

oldmanhorton6y ago

The name isn't going, but we also are replacing much more than just edgehtml. The new version of edge shares very little code with the old version of edge

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ilkkao6y ago

Are there any estimates when they make the switch on Windows 10?

burmer6y ago

Microsoft reveals new browser for Microsoft Edge.

seemsridiculous6y ago

I just see ansolutely no reason why I would use microsoft edge

ravenstine6y ago

Edge in its current form is being replaced by a version based on Chromium. I can see why people would want to use that when it becomes default since it would have the advantages of using Chrome but without the extra download.

Beta downloads: https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download

yardie6y ago

Until Firefox and Chrome can take group policies Edge will have an edge in centrally managed office deployments.

I get the best of both worlds. Access to the dev extensions in the Chrome Store as well as Windows pass-through authentication.

purple_ducks6y ago

They already can?

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-usi...

https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/187202?hl=en

vharuck6y ago

At my job, the options are Edge or Explorer. I'll admit, neither option leaves me happy.

sys_647386y ago

It'll on the default install of Windows 10 once 1.0 is formally released. When people realize it's Microsoft Chrome then they'll ditch Google's version of Chrome. It's actually a pretty smart move by MS as they'll quickly become the dominant browser again.

buboard6y ago

They might be sued: https://www.newmoney.gr/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/cosmote-1...

mrtksn6y ago

It's an endless joy for me when Microsoft fails to get traction with their new shiny browser and changes something as a fresh start.

It's a decent browser but never again IE. Keep rebranding the browser downloading tool, Microsoft.

That said, these days I am annoyed by "This browser is not supported, use Chrome" messages. Maybe the the history does not repeat but rhymes after all.

Browsers should be made by non-profits like mozilla, in my opinion.

pavlov6y ago

The new Microsoft Edge is Chromium, so at least you won’t be getting those messages.

mrtksn6y ago

It's not really about the technology but about what Microsoft did until someone finally managed to take them down.

Microsoft has a cool CEO and Bill Gates is just a tad short of an angel these days, however a history of suffering should not be forgotten. What Microsoft did was not benign.

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mthoms6y ago

Firefox Developer Edition logo for comparison:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Fi...

willis9366y ago

Higher res link:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Firefox_...

judge20206y ago

While the SVG will scale to any size, Chrome has it very small on my screen and even zooming to 500% (max zoom) is smaller than the linked png.

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Razengan6y ago

Maybe I’ve seen too much games/anime, but that evokes the image of a defeated/burned out fire beast plummeting to the ground..

sdegutis6y ago

Oh wow. That’s incredibly similar.

dpcan6y ago

I don't agree, other than being blue and having some gradients.

The Edge logo looks like an "e", not a fox hugging a globe.

The new logo looks good in my opinion. It has earth tones, looks like an "e", has some edges.

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alpaca1286y ago

Wait till you see the Firefox Nightly logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Firefox_Nightly_Logo...

dyarosla6y ago

I’d say Microsoft’s new logo is far more reminiscent of Google Chromium- not Firefox.

mxfh6y ago

[1] current: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chromium_11_Logo.svg

[2] old chromium(2009-2011): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chromium_Logo.svg https://codereview.chromium.org/2806029/patch/1/61

lucideer6y ago

The Chromium logo is angular and defined, whereas Firefox/Edge both represent fluid waves sweeping circularly.

The Chromium logo is in bluish tones, and is somewhat ring/donut shapes, and beyond those two (very broad) features there are no further similarities.

See also the Firefox ecosystem logo: http://ffp4g1ylyit3jdyti1hqcvtb-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/open...

and even more striking, some of the mocks from Mozilla's design docs for future Firefox products https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11896715/S...

mxfh6y ago

https://i.imgur.com/x6bpBjz.png

galonk6y ago

So, like... does EVERYONE think it looks too much like the Firefox logo, or...

mc326y ago

It’s looks more like a tsunami than a curled up Fox to me.

It’s a little reminiscent of Akamai[1] tbh.

[1]https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Akamai_logo.svg

lucideer6y ago

Yeah, but... the Firefox Browser logo also looks more like a tsunami than a curled up fox...

And that's just the browser logo. Let's not get into the Firefox ecosystem logo: http://ffp4g1ylyit3jdyti1hqcvtb-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/open...

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mehrdadn6y ago

Nope, I think it's a lot more like Chrome's.

pubby6y ago

Especially the Chromium logo, which is blue.

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tobr6y ago

That was my first thought. I’m sure I’ve seen some unsolicited re-design of the Firefox icon that looked very similar to this, but with an orange palette.

chrisseaton6y ago

Doesn't really look like a fox to me. Maybe a tadpole?

wayneftw6y ago

Osiris6y ago

I use Vivaldi on Linux, macOS, and Windows. It's the most customizable browser I've used since Opera 12 (which makes sense, since one of the Opera founders started Vivaldi).

zapzupnz6y ago

saber16y ago

The new Edge is based on Chromium (Uses Blink as the engine), so I don't think it will challenge Google on things like Manifest v3.

the_pwner2246y ago

Falkon is the KDE browser which is WebKit-based and not Google. It works on at least Linux and Windows. I believe the GNOME browser (Epiphany?) is also WebKit-based.

abrowne6y ago

- The codebase is modularized to allow use of system libraries like OpenSSL"

So Falkon is not like Opera and this new Edge which use almost everything from Chromium, including the app shell, but it's web engine is Chromium.

1: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web/

2: https://webkitgtk.org/

3: https://www.falkon.org/

4: https://wiki.qt.io/QtWebEngine

reichardt6y ago

I believe Edge is based on Chromium not WebKit?

jdnenej6y ago

Chromium uses blink which was forked from WebKit long ago.

troymc6y ago

It reminds me of The Great Wave off Kanagawa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Wave_off_Kanagawa

ravenstine6y ago

The further they can move away from the legacy of Internet Explorer, the better.

lostgame6y ago

I only remember IE fondly from my early days of using it on OSX and Classic MacOS.

For Windows it always seemed like Netscape worked better into Firefox came along.

gen36y ago

I can totally see this confusing less technically literate people. I think too many people are trained to just click the blue E.

I think I do like it. I think it fits what Microsoft is trying to do with their design scheme.

cm21876y ago

It's the "c" of Chredge, isn't it?

ai_ja_nai6y ago

Firefox Nightly, I'd say: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1160831232357351425/dlf...

RcouF1uZ4gsC6y ago

If you rotate 180 degrees up, it looks like a “G” which I guess is appropriate as it is based on Chrome’s rendering engine.

code4tee6y ago

Looks mostly like the Firefox logo

mixmastamyk6y ago

I don’t hate it, kinda cool actually, but missing something. Perhaps text.

kaycebasques6y ago

I like it.

theclaw6y ago

I’m not sure I’m a fan. It’s like a profile shot of a laughing bulbous head. It says supermarket brand laundry detergent to me.

saghm6y ago

> It says supermarket brand laundry detergent to me

I didn't think of this before, but I don't think I'll ever be able to unsee this now

51Cards6y ago

Well now if you're colour blind you may not know if you're clicking on Firefox or Edge.

ricc6y ago

Most comments say it either looks like Firefox’s logo or Chrome’s. I think it’s kinda both.

cryptozeus6y ago

thrower1236y ago

rblatz6y ago

Is there a source that us with ad blockers can see?

detaro6y ago

The article links https://www.reddit.com/r/MicrosoftEdge/comments/dqpaak/new_m... as its own source

rblatz6y ago

Thank you!

adrift6y ago

It looks very underwhelming and lacks personality.

vidanay6y ago

The logo, or Edge?

GnarfGnarf6y ago

Yes.

aklemm6y ago

It screams “impending doom” to me.

hpoe6y ago

I thought they were replacing edge with Blink soon?

lucideer6y ago

They're replacing EdgeHTML (the internal engine within Edge) with Blink (the internal engine within Chromium). The name of the overall Edge product isn't changing (to my knowledge).

oldmanhorton6y ago

The name isn't going, but we also are replacing much more than just edgehtml. The new version of edge shares very little code with the old version of edge

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ilkkao6y ago

Are there any estimates when they make the switch on Windows 10?

burmer6y ago

Microsoft reveals new browser for Microsoft Edge.

seemsridiculous6y ago

I just see ansolutely no reason why I would use microsoft edge

ravenstine6y ago

Beta downloads: https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download

yardie6y ago

Until Firefox and Chrome can take group policies Edge will have an edge in centrally managed office deployments.

I get the best of both worlds. Access to the dev extensions in the Chrome Store as well as Windows pass-through authentication.

purple_ducks6y ago

They already can?

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-usi...

https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/187202?hl=en

vharuck6y ago

At my job, the options are Edge or Explorer. I'll admit, neither option leaves me happy.

sys_647386y ago

buboard6y ago

They might be sued: https://www.newmoney.gr/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/cosmote-1...

mrtksn6y ago

It's an endless joy for me when Microsoft fails to get traction with their new shiny browser and changes something as a fresh start.

It's a decent browser but never again IE. Keep rebranding the browser downloading tool, Microsoft.

That said, these days I am annoyed by "This browser is not supported, use Chrome" messages. Maybe the the history does not repeat but rhymes after all.

Browsers should be made by non-profits like mozilla, in my opinion.

pavlov6y ago

The new Microsoft Edge is Chromium, so at least you won’t be getting those messages.

mrtksn6y ago

It's not really about the technology but about what Microsoft did until someone finally managed to take them down.

Microsoft has a cool CEO and Bill Gates is just a tad short of an angel these days, however a history of suffering should not be forgotten. What Microsoft did was not benign.

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