Edit - Since someone’s asking for an explanation as to why I stopped patting attention to Mr Ma ...
I have seen 2-3 videos where he sounds really inspirational. Like one where he breaks down a persons career timeline and what he would be doing at particular age groups. (Probably the most viral video of him)
Second video where he speaks on how we humans can stay relevant in age of AI (By changing education in his words, teaching children to paint, play sports et al which we already do anyways).
The second video was where I started doubting if he’s a clueless person and just goes around fooling people.
Final nail in the coffin was his video with Elon Musk. I couldn’t believe for a minute when Mr Ma says he has just returned from Mars. After that he said AI should be named Alibaba Intelligence (If he had only cracked open a book and read about the Dartmouth conference). And then the icing on the cake, the answer to AI is love.
I won’t deny that love may be answer to AI, but Jack was just mincing words to make another inspirational video.
> "At least 40 companies, including Huawei and Alibaba Group, have implemented the 996 schedule or an even more intensive alternative."
I didn't really care for what Jack Ma had to say before seeing this video. After seeing it, I feel like he should be actively avoided as a source of wisdom.
In the Musk video, when he says he's returned from Mars, that was a self depreciating joke on the account of his facial features, which the Chinese media had called him a Martian in the past. He has sorta just owned it since.
Everything else is spot on.
Yep, he is just saying, and not a particular good commentary per say.
Ma’s approach is: everybody work less and enjoy the perks.
Musk’s is: learn AI or perish, and beware the consequences.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive, although the messages are different. I believe this because Musk’s assertion of an elite few living in tall spires and the masses living in relative poverty was overtly dismissed by Ma, but I felt that his facial expressions suggested that he was hiding his agreement of it.
Or...the costs of goods adjust as demand shifts, and things previously not considered "a job" start being considered jobs. I don't know why people get this idea in their head that if suddenly everyone works less for the same amount, everything stays the same price. Producers still want consumers, so prices shift. In the future, you might get paid to judge how moving and emotional music sounds. Or how good food tastes. As long as there exist services that humans want and we can't yet automate, there will always be an economy.
1: Ma said that AI can never be as smart as a human. The core of his argument was that humans will always be more clever than machines because humans create machines. Humans working less is just a byproduct of this. I was amazed to see how stupid Ma is. He is truly ignorant.
2: the core of Elon’s argument is that AGI is detrimental to human society. Elon’s first choice is to not have AGIs come about. Merging with them is his second choice and a stopgap measure. It isn’t learn ai or perish, it’s learn ai and reduce the probability of perishing modestly. You may not realize this without having heard other interviews though.
3: musk never said anything about people living in spires as a societal inequality thing. He said in terms of being able to see what’s coming, some people are atop spires and some people are on the ground. All he’s saying is that some people can see clearly what’s coming (AI turning the world upside down) and most people can’t see what’s coming. Nothing to do with socioeconomics or inequality. Wasn’t a social comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up9-C4_8dVo
And yet Alibaba is now worth more than Ebay and Yahoo combined.
He may be ignorant but he's not entirely stupid.
Of course, the irony of him talking about how Alibaba employees should work more hours shouldn't be lost on people.
AI can be bad, but only through abuse by humans and not by the plot of Terminator. Mars is great but I feel like we have more pressing issue to solve. Being rich and privileged can blind us to the pressing needs and focus on overly lofty ambitions.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90335059/alibaba-founder-jack-ma...
Making sure everybody have high living standards (as supported by above automation) is a job of democratic governments
— John Maynard Keynes in 1930.
Still waiting for this to be true before buying into the 12-hour work week theory.
And frankly, he is about clueless as most citizens on AI (as demonstrated in his awkward interchange with Leon recently), there isn't much of weight of such statement...
