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0 pointsmichaelmrose6y ago0 comments

Top leader of a staff of 11 and a budget of <doctor evil> 1 million dollars </doctor evil>

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The scope of and influence of nonprofits can't be measured in staff and budget.

Linux foundation and FSF have small staff and budget but the total economic value of the projects they steer is in tens of billions.

DoreenMichele6y ago

So the lesson is: Don't selflessly give your work away for nothing out of idealism lest it improve the world in some fashion all out of proportion to the budget involved because, if you do, we shall surely expect your head on a pike at some point for some wholly unrelated personal gaff.

Rather than, you know, finding some humane, compassionate approach to dealing with the personal shortcomings of someone who has done so very much for the world.

kelnos6y ago

No, the lesson is: don't treat women poorly, period. And if you happen to be a notable public figure and treat women poorly, it'll be that much worse for you. Giving your work away for free and being idealistic doesn't give you a pass on bad behavior.

I would agree that the severity of RMS's remarks regarding Epstein/Minsky is lower than the press is making it out to be. But Stallman's bad behavior stretches back decades, and this oddly-shaped, not-entirely-correct straw happened to finally break the camel's back. Good riddance.

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nabla96y ago

No.

My point is that public leadership position is not related to humane retirement of people individuals. Leadership is never entitlement.

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flukus6y ago

You write this like it's an insult, but with a dozen stuff and million dollar budget he's done more for the world than most of us could do with 1000 staff and a billion dollar budget.

That's a testament to his vision and leadership.

michaelmroseOP6y ago

I wrote it as a poke at the parent poster who suggested that top leaders should expect to be held to different standards than the rest of us when speaking of a man who enjoyed none of the perks of being a "top leader" while contributing a lot.

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nabla96y ago

The scope of and influence of nonprofits can't be measured in staff and budget.

Linux foundation and FSF have small staff and budget but the total economic value of the projects they steer is in tens of billions.

DoreenMichele6y ago

Rather than, you know, finding some humane, compassionate approach to dealing with the personal shortcomings of someone who has done so very much for the world.

kelnos6y ago

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nabla96y ago

No.

My point is that public leadership position is not related to humane retirement of people individuals. Leadership is never entitlement.

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flukus6y ago

You write this like it's an insult, but with a dozen stuff and million dollar budget he's done more for the world than most of us could do with 1000 staff and a billion dollar budget.

That's a testament to his vision and leadership.

michaelmroseOP6y ago

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