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0 pointspjmlp6y ago0 comments

Yes, many digital web agencies are going through that route for mobile web sites, instead of having to deal with native toolchains.

Do you also consider Google and Apple's move desperate then?

While Microsoft has definitively bombed on phones, they are doing pretty alright on convertible laptops/hybrid tablets.

As for best option, I also mentioned a couple of other ones, which I advocate as alternative to PWAs.

I see Flutter has a future as bright as CoffeeScript, if it keeps being tied to Dart.

As for React Native, it depends on how much one feels like having to deal with JavaScript and the interoperability issue that often happen across Android devices.

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crispinb6y ago

It was your invocation of Microsoft's move I considered desperate.

You're still studiously avoid mentioning any actual PWAs. I'm someone who wishes PWAs would take over, as I dislike all the OSs and don't want my usage habits or data to be tied to them. But as of now it's not happening, is it?

If a person was trying to advise a developer new to mobile apps, with their interests rather than the advisor's tastes in mind, I cannot believe they'd advise PWAs as a primary focus.

Learning a platform isn't a forever-decision. A new mobile app developer can always learn new tech as needed. But if they want a start now, they're better off learning what's dominating today.

pjmlpOP6y ago

Because the ones I am fully aware as PWAs, are the projects I worked on for internal enterprise customers, not something that joe and jane get on their devices.

EDIT: besides the examples posted by lucasverra, you have KaiOS with its relatively big Asian market share, Google Go-Apps variants of their apps are mostly PWAs.

lucasverra6y ago

- https://eng.uber.com/engineering-uber-lite/

- twitter web

- tinder

- starbucks loyalty app

crispinb6y ago

I know there are some decent individual examples (indeed I mentioned some myself). I'm just unconvinced that the once-anticipated shift from native apps to PWAs is happening. They are expanding into some niches, but mobile app development is still overwhelmingly native. Certainly for my local job market, only an ideologue, uninterested in the repercussions of their advice, would suggest to a mobile app newbie that they learn PWA tech first - iOS & Android developers will walk into a job anywhere, whereas they'd be hawking for a while to find work building PWAs (though web tech more generally is hot as always of course).

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0 pointspjmlp6y ago0 comments

Yes, many digital web agencies are going through that route for mobile web sites, instead of having to deal with native toolchains.

Do you also consider Google and Apple's move desperate then?

While Microsoft has definitively bombed on phones, they are doing pretty alright on convertible laptops/hybrid tablets.

As for best option, I also mentioned a couple of other ones, which I advocate as alternative to PWAs.

I see Flutter has a future as bright as CoffeeScript, if it keeps being tied to Dart.

As for React Native, it depends on how much one feels like having to deal with JavaScript and the interoperability issue that often happen across Android devices.

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crispinb6y ago

It was your invocation of Microsoft's move I considered desperate.

If a person was trying to advise a developer new to mobile apps, with their interests rather than the advisor's tastes in mind, I cannot believe they'd advise PWAs as a primary focus.

Learning a platform isn't a forever-decision. A new mobile app developer can always learn new tech as needed. But if they want a start now, they're better off learning what's dominating today.

pjmlpOP6y ago

Because the ones I am fully aware as PWAs, are the projects I worked on for internal enterprise customers, not something that joe and jane get on their devices.

EDIT: besides the examples posted by lucasverra, you have KaiOS with its relatively big Asian market share, Google Go-Apps variants of their apps are mostly PWAs.

lucasverra6y ago

- https://eng.uber.com/engineering-uber-lite/

- twitter web

- tinder

- starbucks loyalty app

crispinb6y ago

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