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0 pointszeeboo6y ago0 comments

Maybe you should trust the judgement of the highly-qualified engineers then when they decided to go with their own toolchain, and not just assume that they’re doing it because plan 9 or some other vacuous reason.

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apta6y ago

The same people who created a language with poor design decisions where superior solutions existed in other languages they could have simply used?

hu36y ago

What you vaguely label as poor design decisions are actually trade-offs and they make sense to a plethora of highly educated engineers.

apta6y ago

The people who made golang are not language designers, and/or did not research established options in other language as per their admittance.

w8rbt6y ago

Ken Thompson wrote B which is the direct predecessor of C. He was and is certainly a language designer and implementer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_(programming_language)

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foldr6y ago

>The people who made golang are not language designers,

I bet they've designed and executed on more programming languages than you have :)

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pjmlp6y ago

Just like when C came around and everyone else was doing safe system programming in Algol dialects, PL/I, Fortran extensions, BLISS, Mesa.

I see a trend here.

jbarham6y ago

Imagine what Ken Thompson could have accomplished if he hadn't made all those poor design decisions!

And yet hundreds of thousands of working programmers around the world are productively using Go while still continuing to ignore the supposedly superior solutions.

affyboi6y ago

Mass adoption doesn't necessarily mean something is superior. For all the software that's written in Go, there's plenty more written in C++

pjmlp6y ago

Imagine how famous he would be if Bell Labs had been allowed to sell UNIX instead of giving its source code away with a symbolic price.

Hundreds of developers used Basic, Pascal, C, Modula-2, Assembly, Forth productively.

Maybe we should have kept using them, instead of coming up with programming languages that require a PhD. /s

apta6y ago

Appeal to authority fallacy. People still use C, what's your point? There are superior options, but people are either (1) forced to use something inferior, or (2) don't know any better (especially if they drank the kool aid).

jbarham6y ago

> people are either (1) forced to use something inferior, or (2) don't know any better

Here's another fallacy for you: false dilemma.

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apta6y ago

The same people who created a language with poor design decisions where superior solutions existed in other languages they could have simply used?

hu36y ago

What you vaguely label as poor design decisions are actually trade-offs and they make sense to a plethora of highly educated engineers.

apta6y ago

The people who made golang are not language designers, and/or did not research established options in other language as per their admittance.

w8rbt6y ago

Ken Thompson wrote B which is the direct predecessor of C. He was and is certainly a language designer and implementer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_(programming_language)

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foldr6y ago

>The people who made golang are not language designers,

I bet they've designed and executed on more programming languages than you have :)

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pjmlp6y ago

Just like when C came around and everyone else was doing safe system programming in Algol dialects, PL/I, Fortran extensions, BLISS, Mesa.

I see a trend here.

jbarham6y ago

Imagine what Ken Thompson could have accomplished if he hadn't made all those poor design decisions!

And yet hundreds of thousands of working programmers around the world are productively using Go while still continuing to ignore the supposedly superior solutions.

affyboi6y ago

Mass adoption doesn't necessarily mean something is superior. For all the software that's written in Go, there's plenty more written in C++

pjmlp6y ago

Imagine how famous he would be if Bell Labs had been allowed to sell UNIX instead of giving its source code away with a symbolic price.

Hundreds of developers used Basic, Pascal, C, Modula-2, Assembly, Forth productively.

Maybe we should have kept using them, instead of coming up with programming languages that require a PhD. /s

apta6y ago

jbarham6y ago

> people are either (1) forced to use something inferior, or (2) don't know any better

Here's another fallacy for you: false dilemma.

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