Ask HN: Will I be able to talk to a human if I move from Google to Apple?

18 pointssnrji6y ago26 comments

I've been a "Google" guy since I started using the Internet. Gmail, Android, Drive and Google Photos. I even have a G Suite account (the legacy, free one).

However, I'm frustrated with some problems that I have had and specifically the fact that it was absolutely impossible to reach anyone. Also, I have read some horror stories about losing data and other problems.

So, my question is: if I migrate from Google to Apple (phone, photos...), which I don't know exactly what's the best way to do it and it will be painful, will I be able to talk to a human from Apple support? Assuming I would buy an iPhone and even pay for an iCloud subscription.

"Apple guys" from HN, if you have a problem with iCloud, for instance, can you easily talk to a human? What's your experience?

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duiker1016y ago

You will be able to go to a Genius bar and get your support. If that's what you are after, the answer should be yes. But I would advise against it. You will move from one gated garden to another. You are right, breaking out from Google is very hard and painful, but I would argue breaking out of Apple might be even harder.

A while ago I started having the same worry about Google and started to cut them out. I began with email and moved to FastMail with my own domain, then I moved my drive and Photos (currently on DropBox) and then all other things (Apps/contacts/calendars)

Admittedly, it's more expensive, but each component is now separate and if something goes wrong I don't risk losing everything in one go.

Tomte6y ago

I'm on Fastmail with my own domain(s), my photos and files are mostly local, with a backup on iCloud and on OneDrive and I'm using an iPhone and an iPad. I also have an iCloud subscription.

Why would an Apple device stop anyone from doing what you just outlined?

duiker1016y ago

Nothing, but that's not what OP asked for. He seems to be wanting to move everything to Apple, not OneDrive, not Fastmail etc... my comment was about moving out of being all-in with Apple. Google's takeout service is okish, but I am not aware of similar services on Apple and there is a even stronger tie between services and devices with Apple, which makes it also more expensive to want to move away from it.

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ganeshkrishnan6y ago

I absolutely detest Apple products but absolutely love that their customer service is par excellence.

mtmail6y ago

I had a problem with buying an iOS app after switching to a new computer, the credit card was put on hold, and I called Apple support. Super friendly, they waited patiently until I reentered all information to make sure it worked before ending the call.

tomcam6y ago

I have used Apple phone support several times a year for the last few years. It works very well. They always get to me promptly, even at busy times such as a Monday during the business day. I don’t know whether you can get it without purchasing their Apple care plan.

I’m no longer buying Apple laptops and I will miss that support option.

redis_mlc6y ago

FYI: a lot of people used Blackberries much longer than you would expect because they got Tier 2 (expert, near-shore) support by default.

I never got a scripted answer to my questions.

And I also recommend and use the Apple stores for support.

So the OP is asking a really pertinent question.

closetohome6y ago

I've found Apple support to be fine in person (used to be able to just walk in, now you need an appointment), great by phone, and super convenient via chat.

GeekyBear6y ago

You have a choice of free support in person, if you happen to live near an Apple Store, or free support over the phone.

PopeDotNinja6y ago

In case you don't know, if you are a premium Google customer paying for a service, you can talk to someone. I've had a couple of times where I needed support and was able to speak with a person. I don't know if those options exist for free tier customers.

ganeshkrishnan6y ago

This is misleading. The support only exists to solve anything to do with accounting or payments.

Google banned a couple of startups in our accelerator because they had interns with integrated sign-in and Google bans all related accounts with absolute impunity.

The customer service said they can only help with billing and also note that you can't even access the settings page to get your pin or phone number.

If your register again, Google will process your payment and ban you immediately after that due to related accounts. This is in their terms and conditions.

With chrome auto sign in , it's becoming easier for them to find related accounts.

PopeDotNinja6y ago

> Google banned a couple of startups in our accelerator because they had interns with integrated sign-in and Google bans all related accounts with absolute impunity.

Can you expand on that? I'm not sure I understand.

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ialwaysforgetm6y ago

> premium Google customer paying for a service

And what is the best way to become part of such group while at the same time paying as little as possible?

Also, if for some reason Google decides to simply block/ban my account as a whole (so I can't login), how will I be able to contact them in order to even say "hey, I am that premium customer"?

(serious questions, I rely on Gmail and have always been afraid of simply losing it)

PopeDotNinja6y ago

Take a look at the cheapest storage option. It's something like $20/year 100GB. I signed up when my storage needs exceeded about 10GB. Your mileage may vary.

sixcorners6y ago

This doesn't answer your question but..

It looks like google offers phone support if you pay for Google One.

https://one.google.com/support

Have you tried it out?

matty226y ago

I've used both Apple Support over the phone for set up/software issues and Apple Genius Bar for hardware issues. Nothing but good things to say about them. In general, a very pleasant experience.

towndrunk6y ago

You can always walk into the Apple Store where they have the Genius bar.

tinus_hn6y ago

You can just call them and they will probably help you but if you have a difficult question you might get nowhere. If you have just bought a new iPhone it comes with support though.

dmode6y ago

Apple support is way better than Google. Genius Bar is always helpful

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duiker1016y ago

Admittedly, it's more expensive, but each component is now separate and if something goes wrong I don't risk losing everything in one go.

Tomte6y ago

I'm on Fastmail with my own domain(s), my photos and files are mostly local, with a backup on iCloud and on OneDrive and I'm using an iPhone and an iPad. I also have an iCloud subscription.

Why would an Apple device stop anyone from doing what you just outlined?

duiker1016y ago

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ganeshkrishnan6y ago

I absolutely detest Apple products but absolutely love that their customer service is par excellence.

mtmail6y ago

tomcam6y ago

I’m no longer buying Apple laptops and I will miss that support option.

redis_mlc6y ago

FYI: a lot of people used Blackberries much longer than you would expect because they got Tier 2 (expert, near-shore) support by default.

I never got a scripted answer to my questions.

And I also recommend and use the Apple stores for support.

So the OP is asking a really pertinent question.

closetohome6y ago

I've found Apple support to be fine in person (used to be able to just walk in, now you need an appointment), great by phone, and super convenient via chat.

GeekyBear6y ago

You have a choice of free support in person, if you happen to live near an Apple Store, or free support over the phone.

PopeDotNinja6y ago

ganeshkrishnan6y ago

This is misleading. The support only exists to solve anything to do with accounting or payments.

Google banned a couple of startups in our accelerator because they had interns with integrated sign-in and Google bans all related accounts with absolute impunity.

The customer service said they can only help with billing and also note that you can't even access the settings page to get your pin or phone number.

If your register again, Google will process your payment and ban you immediately after that due to related accounts. This is in their terms and conditions.

With chrome auto sign in , it's becoming easier for them to find related accounts.

PopeDotNinja6y ago

> Google banned a couple of startups in our accelerator because they had interns with integrated sign-in and Google bans all related accounts with absolute impunity.

Can you expand on that? I'm not sure I understand.

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ialwaysforgetm6y ago

> premium Google customer paying for a service

And what is the best way to become part of such group while at the same time paying as little as possible?

Also, if for some reason Google decides to simply block/ban my account as a whole (so I can't login), how will I be able to contact them in order to even say "hey, I am that premium customer"?

(serious questions, I rely on Gmail and have always been afraid of simply losing it)

PopeDotNinja6y ago

Take a look at the cheapest storage option. It's something like $20/year 100GB. I signed up when my storage needs exceeded about 10GB. Your mileage may vary.

sixcorners6y ago

This doesn't answer your question but..

It looks like google offers phone support if you pay for Google One.

https://one.google.com/support

Have you tried it out?

matty226y ago

I've used both Apple Support over the phone for set up/software issues and Apple Genius Bar for hardware issues. Nothing but good things to say about them. In general, a very pleasant experience.

towndrunk6y ago

You can always walk into the Apple Store where they have the Genius bar.

tinus_hn6y ago

You can just call them and they will probably help you but if you have a difficult question you might get nowhere. If you have just bought a new iPhone it comes with support though.

dmode6y ago

Apple support is way better than Google. Genius Bar is always helpful

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