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0 pointspaulryanrogers6y ago0 comments

The same could have been said of Gopher. FTP is typically insecure and painful to use with it's varying port maps. Transferring files over HTTP or more modern protocols is the future.

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userbinator6y ago

Transferring files over HTTP or more modern protocols is the future

My direct and blunt rebuttal is "I don't care". The future is worthless without the present, and more importantly, the past. The continued effective destruction of history that these big tech companies are doing with their actions is a disturbing trend.

UncleMeat6y ago

Why doesn't HN support http login then? It's part of the spec.

tim586y ago

A platform should support the entire spec. An app should correctly implement the parts of the spec it chooses.

cameldrv6y ago

FTP in PASV mode operates very similarly to HTTP, and is no more insecure. With an organization the size of Google and the Chrome team, they should be able to make it work.

raverbashing6y ago

Honest question: Has anyone not used FTP in PASV mode in the last 20 years over the internet?

I think it's pretty much a given since most clients change to PASV mode as a first step. And it's rare that people have a port open to them (behind all firewalls, etc)

Filligree6y ago

Not all servers work with passive mode. For active, the onus on keeping it working is on me -- and that's easy, it's a trivial bit of firewall config. (conntrack_ftp)

duskwuff6y ago

The same was said of Gopher. When Mozilla dropped support for the protocol in Firefox 4.0, there was a brief outcry, followed by silence as everyone realized that the protocol had been effectively unused for decades already.

al_form20006y ago

Except ftp is alive.

Volt6y ago

>The same could have been said of Gopher.

I don't think Chrome ever supported Gopher, but if some other browser removed something that worked fine before I wouldn't like it either.

llarsson6y ago

Firefox did remove its support for it, but the support could easily be added back with an extension.

I am more worried about the very realistic that that Google would be dropping FTP from search results, seeing as how their users won't be able to open them in the Google browser.

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