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0 pointstomlockwood6y ago0 comments

> Do I need to say this? Correlation does not equal causation.

It has been backed up by numerous studies which control for that sort of thing.

> I never stated any such support, and that is not the definition of an assault rifle, it's the definition of an automatic weapon.

Awesome, reasonable gun control for all! Don't even need a handgun, really.

You: > I was talking about political violence

Me: > political violence in America

> Of course it's perpetrated by whites; they're almost 80% of the population.

White men are around 35%, so it's weird that this very vocal and pearl-clutching portion of the population commits so many murders per capita.

> speak plainly if you have a point to make

Do you feel like if the brave men and women of the American military were ordered to take your guns, they'd do so?

> makes it easier to not think about what I'm saying

What have you specifically said that you think I'm not thinking about?

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jlawson6y ago

>White men are around 35%, so it's weird that this very vocal and pearl-clutching portion of the population commits so many murders per capita.

Men commit more murders than women (in all places and times).

In America, whites commit less murders than their population percentage. This is true overall, and amongst men only.

You seem to support holding suspicion of entire identity groups on the basis of crime statistics. If so, you must really hate young black men; they're 4% of the population and commit >50% of American murders. Do you? If not, why the obsessive focus on 'white men'?

>Do you feel like if the brave men and women of the American military were ordered to take your guns, they'd do so?

I asked you to make your point and you insist again on rhetorical questions with some kind of implied but unspoken point behind them. But sure, I'll answer: Given that I'm not American and I don't own any guns, it's kind of a bizarre question. If they were ordered to invade my country, I think they would. But that'd be a very different world.

>What have you specifically said that you think I'm not thinking about?

Redefining safety as freedom is absurd.

tomlockwoodOP6y ago

> Men commit more murders than women (in all places and times).

I know, 90-95% in fact! Which makes it interesting that so often people focus on racial issues, like the plight of white south african farmers, when there's a wayyyy larger correlation with violence of all kinds, and gender. An individual gun owner's reason for owning a gun may focus on some abstract interracial political violence, when they're much more likely to be murderer by a young, poor, man.

> Redefining safety as freedom is absurd.

If some level of safety is required in order to live, freedom is contingent on safety. When you're dead you can't own any guns.

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