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0 pointsgoatinaboat6y ago0 comments

Developers who don’t care if anyone thinks they’re real developers, I guess!

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renke16y ago· 3 in thread

For what it's worth, I can confirm that a lot of backend developers look down to frontend developers, but if you dig a little deeper you often (not always) see that frontend development is simply intimidating to them and they rather stick to what they know. At least in my country/region this leads to a lack of good frontend developers; good developers being those that apply well-known and established (backend) practices to the frontend.

my_usernam36y ago

> good developers being those that apply well-known and established (backend) practices to the frontend

100% agree with this. From my experience good front end developers are much harder to come by in silicon valley. We use a general coding interview process, and really struggle finding experienced front end developers because its a hard position.

When I have to touch javascript, I break everything, beg for help, then run back into my enterprise java code. This elitist backend attitude to me seems to stem from insecurities of us nerds. I personally feel inferior to front end developers, the ones I know are freaking magicians.

PunchTornado6y ago

really? for some years I haven't noticed any difference between frontend and backend. that is because both frontend and backend are in js probably...

renke16y ago

Most "enterprise" application backends are still written in Java (and probably C#) combined with a frontend based on Angular, sometimes Reacts or older technologies. I am not aware of any Node-based backend at any of our customers (medium/large German companies), except maybe for some smaller parts of the backend (microservices architecure etc.)

Ah, also, not sure if you were joking, but I don't think using JavaScript (TypeScript, that is) in both frontend and backend is a bad idea. Having a shared (domain) model can be a real boon. Admittedly, JavaScript lacks a few things that is offered by Java and the like that makes not yet fit for larger applications though (say DI, modularization and so on).

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