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0 pointsaczerepinski6y ago0 comments

My work is a Ruby/JS shop, and we have some Go in production as well. We definitely need a little hand holding to ramp anybody new up on the Go codebases. In many cases our devs haven't used types, pointers or any equivalent of goroutines & channels. I've written just barely enough Rust to say there are even more concepts that would be new to my team.

Even with Go being comparitvely simpler, I could go either way on whether it was the right choice to add it to the stack.

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LandR6y ago

> In many cases our devs haven't used types, pointers or any equivalent of goroutines & channels.

How do you manage to get a job as a developer without having ever learned this stuff?

Are these people that are just self taught straight to javascript / ruby?

I mean, are CS course nowadays so bad that students come out of them without understanding things like type-theory, pointers etc

aczerepinskiOP6y ago

To be honest, this response feels a bit aggressive and dismissive to me.

Many of my coworkers (myself included) entered the profession through bootcamps. Others came up during the PHP/Wordpress to Ruby/Rails era of web development, and never had a reason to learn languages like C++ or Java. I don't think there's anything to make fun of, or apologize for in this scenario.

chessturk6y ago

The shop I'm part of is staffed by bootcampers or fully self-taught people. Not a degree in sight. They have to be passionate about code/computer/the web/technology/math/some associated subject to thrive, but when they are, it seems to work out. I'm lead to believe this is the relative norm for web development.

Bootcamps do not teach things like pointers, type-theory, or big-O notation. I'm not sure what they do teach, I'm self-taught and via MIT Open Courseware + other net resources, have learned a lot about those, but I have no idea how that compares to either bootcamps or modern CS courses. Not all of my colleagues know about pointers or type-theory, but the senior ones do.

I don't know if my experience is unusual though.

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