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0 pointsscarface746y ago0 comments

So who is releasing “innovative hardware”?

But to your point, since 2008:

- Mac revenue has grown

- iPad was introduced and by itself its revenue and more than likely profit is something that any company would kill for.

- the Apple Watch was introduced and all indications it’s bigger than the iPod ever was.

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vannevar6y ago

I'm not saying Apple isn't successful. In fact, that's my point: they're clearly releasing solid products. But they aren't the category-killers that the company's reputation for innovation is built on. There have been rumors of new innovations (reinventing TV, an Apple Car, augmented reality) but none have materialized.

Regardless of whether you agree they haven't been innovating, my question stands: if they stop innovating, but remain financially successful, will they still be Apple?

Cookingboy6y ago

Apple now is the world’s largest watch maker both by units sold and by revenue.

In fact Apple Watch’s revenue is projected to surpass that of the entire Swiss watch industry this year.

Even if it doesn’t “kill” the existing category, I’ll say they did a fantastic job carving out the smartwatch category.

vannevar6y ago

Again, I'm not saying the Watch hasn't been successful, or that it's a bad product. I'm saying it wasn't as innovative as many of Apple's other successful products were. It's much more an extension of the iPhone than a standalone innovation.

justapassenger6y ago

AKA - watch market is small.

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scarface74OP6y ago

The TV is a low margin, bulky product with a very long replacement cycle. Nothing about that market is desirable.

Besides, people are spending less screen time on televisions every year and more on portable devices.

vannevar6y ago

I'm not suggesting those were good ideas, only that they were rumors about innovative products that got a lot of attention, in part because everyone thought Apple must be up to something, because they hadn't made a big splash in a long time. Maybe the problem isn't that Apple's isn't innovating anymore, but that so many others now are as well, so innovation gets lost in the crowd. Companies like Tesla, Amazon, and Google share a space now that Apple had to itself for a long time.

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0 pointsscarface746y ago0 comments

So who is releasing “innovative hardware”?

But to your point, since 2008:

- Mac revenue has grown

- iPad was introduced and by itself its revenue and more than likely profit is something that any company would kill for.

- the Apple Watch was introduced and all indications it’s bigger than the iPod ever was.

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vannevar6y ago

Regardless of whether you agree they haven't been innovating, my question stands: if they stop innovating, but remain financially successful, will they still be Apple?

Cookingboy6y ago

Apple now is the world’s largest watch maker both by units sold and by revenue.

In fact Apple Watch’s revenue is projected to surpass that of the entire Swiss watch industry this year.

Even if it doesn’t “kill” the existing category, I’ll say they did a fantastic job carving out the smartwatch category.

vannevar6y ago

justapassenger6y ago

AKA - watch market is small.

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scarface74OP6y ago

The TV is a low margin, bulky product with a very long replacement cycle. Nothing about that market is desirable.

Besides, people are spending less screen time on televisions every year and more on portable devices.

vannevar6y ago

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