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0 pointsBarrin927y ago0 comments

facebook doesn't store your (sent) whatsapp messages, and in contrast to sms they're by default encrypted.

"Your Messages. We do not retain your messages in the ordinary course of providing our Services to you. Once your messages (including your chats, photos, videos, voice messages, files, and share location information) are delivered, they are deleted from our servers. Your messages are stored on your own device. If a message cannot be delivered immediately (for example, if you are offline), we may keep it on our servers for up to 30 days as we try to deliver it."

https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/?eea=1#privacy-policy-informa...

0 pointsBarrin927y ago0 comments

facebook doesn't store your (sent) whatsapp messages, and in contrast to sms they're by default encrypted.

https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/?eea=1#privacy-policy-informa...

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dimator7y ago· 2 in thread

Except it's a matter of record that Zuckerberg is intent on undoing e2ee in whatsapp, and increasing ads[1]. you can't inject ads unless you're scanning the texts.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/whatsapp-fou...

dx0347y ago

You can provide ads based on metadata alone, no need for message contents.

votepaunchy7y ago

Ads based on metadata reveal message contents (people, location, time, and potentially message summarization).

dbbk7y ago· 2 in thread

I really don't think the average person cares if their texts are end-to-end encrypted, though. I'm not sure most people even know what that would mean.

Barrin92OP7y ago

I didn't assert tha the average person cares, just that the original claim about whatsapp is false.

And also: it doesn't matter whether end users care about encryption or not, it still benefits them, this is exactly why end-to-end encryption is a very good default.

MBCook7y ago

I agree the average person doesn’t know what it is, but I bet they would care if they did.

entropea7y ago

Just like they weren't using your 2FA data to sell ads. At this point, it's best to assume that Facebook is watching at all times, even if they say they aren't. Does anyone propose anything really 'crazy out there' that Facebook does that actually doesn't eventually come true?

https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/27/yes-facebook-is-using-your...

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