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0 pointsaidanlister7y ago0 comments

What are you spending with HAProxy a year now?

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user59944617y ago· 4 in thread

You can't spend money on haproxy license. It's free. They make money by selling appliances (servers with haproxy pre installed).

Nginx however is $1900 per year per server. There are plenty of critical features missing from the free edition, for example the status page to see available servers or metrics exporting for monitoring.

wtarreau7y ago

Just to do justice to my coworkers working on the ALOHA appliance, it's not just a "server with haproxy preinstalled" but a tight integration of haproxy plus a few management tools into a dedicated distro built from scratch and packaged as an upgradable image like you'd have on your routers or switches. The whole OS image is around 16 megabytes, kernel included, and it contains a 10 Gbps-capable anti-ddos module, a web interface, and troubleshooting tools. And of course you have root access on it and it doesn't void your support to start to hack on it (not pointing the finger at anyone, but still a little bit :-))

isodude7y ago

Also, HAProxy has brilliant minds like Willy Tarreau behind it. That as a reason is enough. We are lucky to have you around.

nickramirez7y ago

In fact there is a software-based Enterprise version of HAProxy that is subscription based.

smartbit7y ago

https://www.haproxy.com/products/haproxy-enterprise-edition/

NGinx (see above) seems to cost $1900 per server per year. What are the costs for HAProxy Enterprise?

smueller12347y ago

Can't tell you. Don't work there any more and don't remember in detail, but wouldn't disclose that if I was still there. Let's say: a significant fraction of an engineer per year. (But note that this was a very large internet company, worth tens of billions, to have had to build it's own multi level load balancer, not a startup.)

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6 comments · 2 top-level

user59944617y ago· 4 in thread

You can't spend money on haproxy license. It's free. They make money by selling appliances (servers with haproxy pre installed).

Nginx however is $1900 per year per server. There are plenty of critical features missing from the free edition, for example the status page to see available servers or metrics exporting for monitoring.

wtarreau7y ago

Just to do justice to my coworkers working on the ALOHA appliance, it's not just a "server with haproxy preinstalled" but a tight integration of haproxy plus a few management tools into a dedicated distro built from scratch and packaged as an upgradable image like you'd have on your routers or switches. The whole OS image is around 16 megabytes, kernel included, and it contains a 10 Gbps-capable anti-ddos module, a web interface, and troubleshooting tools. And of course you have root access on it and it doesn't void your support to start to hack on it (not pointing the finger at anyone, but still a little bit :-))

isodude7y ago

Also, HAProxy has brilliant minds like Willy Tarreau behind it. That as a reason is enough. We are lucky to have you around.

nickramirez7y ago

In fact there is a software-based Enterprise version of HAProxy that is subscription based.

smartbit7y ago

https://www.haproxy.com/products/haproxy-enterprise-edition/

NGinx (see above) seems to cost $1900 per server per year. What are the costs for HAProxy Enterprise?

smueller12347y ago

Can't tell you. Don't work there any more and don't remember in detail, but wouldn't disclose that if I was still there. Let's say: a significant fraction of an engineer per year. (But note that this was a very large internet company, worth tens of billions, to have had to build it's own multi level load balancer, not a startup.)

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