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0 pointsstevesearer6y ago0 comments

This is what we do at Office Snapshots (https://officesnapshots.com).

We post about office design and our ads are primarily for office furniture or other services related to the industry. We also self-host the ads which are non-animated jpgs and sell them without using any ad networks.

What you describe works well for us :)

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canadapups6y ago

We started doing that too, in addition to Google ads. We deal directly with the advertiser, self host a specific ad for them. It's MUCH more profitable than Google ads. Will phase out the Google Ads soon.

Minimal work involved. A bunch of emails back and forth, where we tell them our ad size if they provide an image. Or they provide a logo and we manually ad the text if they aren't technical enough to provide a custom image.

ChikkaChiChi6y ago

What type of overhead is associated with this? Are you experiencing an increase in server costs? What about the resources it takes to build those relationships, maintain the content, or manage the infrastructure?

I'm very interested in learning more...

stevesearerOP6y ago

We use WordPress and plugins which offer these features so hosting and server costs are pretty minimal.

It definitely takes time and work to develop and maintain relationships, but we also get to keep 100% of the revenue. In some ways we've just decided that ownership of the relationship and process is more important than being able to quickly slap some Adsense code up on the site.

That said, we also used Adsense early on, but have been doing this for ~5 years.

mises6y ago

I'm also wondering how revenue compares. Every one clearly seems to think that "perosnalized" ads are worth more; can you offer any insight into if you make more or less with personalized vs your approach?

People seem to have forgotten that users are most likely to be interested in what they are currently reading, because it is what their mind is currently focused on.

canadapups6y ago

You can get a sense of advertising fees by looking at comparable newspaper ads and industry trade magazines. Even take a look at billboard or radio ads. Custom ads will be an order of magnitude higher that what you get from Google.

stevesearerOP6y ago

I wish I had a deep and thoughtful answer, but a simplistic one is that we do get to keep 100% of the revenue for the ads we sell so in that sense we make more.

Because our content is so specific, ads which are relevant to the content end up targeting the user because you wouldn't be spending time on the site unless you care about the content.

elorant6y ago

So how do you know how much to charge? Do you relate it to AdSense's cost plus Google's profit or you follow some other practice?

stevesearerOP6y ago

Initially I just set a price I thought was fair and have adjusted accordingly as we've grown. I do recall that the amount we received from Adsense was less than what we ended up choosing to charge for the same space.

We also sell the space per month as opposed to based on impressions or clicks so it makes it a little more straightforward.

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canadapups6y ago

ChikkaChiChi6y ago

I'm very interested in learning more...

stevesearerOP6y ago

We use WordPress and plugins which offer these features so hosting and server costs are pretty minimal.

That said, we also used Adsense early on, but have been doing this for ~5 years.

mises6y ago

People seem to have forgotten that users are most likely to be interested in what they are currently reading, because it is what their mind is currently focused on.

canadapups6y ago

stevesearerOP6y ago

I wish I had a deep and thoughtful answer, but a simplistic one is that we do get to keep 100% of the revenue for the ads we sell so in that sense we make more.

Because our content is so specific, ads which are relevant to the content end up targeting the user because you wouldn't be spending time on the site unless you care about the content.

elorant6y ago

So how do you know how much to charge? Do you relate it to AdSense's cost plus Google's profit or you follow some other practice?

stevesearerOP6y ago

We also sell the space per month as opposed to based on impressions or clicks so it makes it a little more straightforward.

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