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0 pointsxyzzyz7y ago0 comments

SNI spec says:

If the server_name is established in the TLS session handshake, the client SHOULD NOT attempt to request a different server name at the application layer.

Yeah, looks like the browsers are allowed to do that, although it's not recommended.

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cpitman7y ago· 2 in thread

The HTTP2 spec actually allows it:

Connections that are made to an origin server, either directly or through a tunnel created using the CONNECT method (Section 8.3), MAY be reused for requests with multiple different URI authority components. A connection can be reused as long as the origin server is authoritative (Section 10.1).

For https resources, connection reuse additionally depends on having a certificate that is valid for the host in the URI. The certificate presented by the server MUST satisfy any checks that the client would perform when forming a new TLS connection for the host in the URI.

There is a way to respond with an error code when a server receives a request for the wrong domain, but it seems like a bad idea to depend on it (because it means lots of failed requests that could be avoided with better certificate management):

A server that does not wish clients to reuse connections can indicate that it is not authoritative for a request by sending a 421 (Misdirected Request) status code in response to the request (see Section 9.1.2).

https://http2.github.io/http2-spec/#rfc.section.9.1.1

jrockway7y ago

Interesting.

I think you want something like Envoy in the middle to actually terminate TLS (you can still use TLS to talk to the backends, of course) and do the load balancing. Having one backend handle one HTTP/2 connection does not necessarily balance load, anyway. With Envoy in the middle, you can again load-balance requests as though they were independent connections; if a browser has an HTTP/2 connection open that wants 10 expensive things, Envoy can use 10 backends to handle that request, rather than sending 10 expensive requests to 1 backend.

The statistics and traces you get for free are also very worthwhile, not to mention more advanced things like automatic retries, canarying, outlier detection, circuit breaking, etc.

cpitman7y ago

Definitely, I was simplifying a little. For that project we actually were using separate Envoy deployments per team/service. Also needed for grpc-web support, and has a json to grpc transcoder.

We could have bypassed this by having a single pool of shared Envoy instances for ingress, but at the time we wanted to avoid the complexity of multiple teams managing a single Envoy configuration. In the next year we'll hopefully switch to Istio, which will help with the multi-tenant configuration management.

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