> When did you have to use cpan in a modern system? Compare that to how many times you had to use pip.

Well yeah. A sizable amount of new software is still being written in Python. But when I use Perl software (besides my custom scripts), it's always stuff that's old enough that the distribution is carrying packages for it.

If you disagree, please name a significant new software written in Perl that was released in the last, say, 5 years.