Ask HN: Good Alternatives to One Note

19 pointsatiredturte6y ago18 comments

I've used a variety of different softwares for my organisation systems, but they all seem to be lacking. One note seems to be the only one that works, but their sync issues are so bad that it makes editing from multiple devices painful as hell.

I have 3 main functionalities that I am searching for: 1. Allow me to organise my pages (rules out Evernote) 2. Has table functionality (rules out notion) 3. Can be used on the phone (rules out desktop-only solutions)

I've been looking for ages and have found nothing that suits.

If anyone has something that fits this description, it would be a game changer for me.

18 comments

anoncake6y ago

I use Org. It's part of Emacs, which you may consider either a dealbreaker or a feature.

While Emacs itself does not really work on mobile (unless you run it in a terminal), there is a companion app for Android called Orgzly. Unfortunately it is quite limited. For example, it does not support tables. (Since Org files are plain text, you can view and technically edit them, but the latter is a pain.) It's good enough for taking quick notes so you don't forget them and to look at existing ones.

For syncing, I use Syncthing, which works flawlessly. Conflicts have to be resolved manually though. Orgzly also has built-in support for syncing via Dropbox. I've never used it as it involves manually pulling and pushing to the server as in a VCS rather than working in the background.

superlepton6y ago

Would Simplenote suit your needs? It supports markdown so it should be possible to create tables, although I did not try it.

ssorc6y ago

Notion has tables; is there specific table functionality you need that they don’t offer?

https://www.keepproductive.com/blog/notion-tables

was_boring6y ago

Notion's tables are ironically too complex to use but not powerful enough to provide good functionality. It would have been better if they just had a a simple table like in Word.

It's like they tried to jam airtable into their product.

atiredturteOP6y ago

Their tables are more like databases. I am looking for a simple, static table that I can enter lots of information into.

I log every day in a week as a 7x4(or so) table, and each cell contains a lot of information. Notion's tables are just not cut out for it. I've messaged their support several times asking for this feature, since their product is otherwise perfect, but basic tables of this nature are simply not on their roadmap for the foreseeable future.

shostack6y ago

I tried Notion but honestly found it to be overly complex for what I had primarily done in Evernote. Am I must missing some key workflow concepts with it?

asaddhamani6y ago

Seconded. Notion does have table, but perhaps their typing makes it a little clunky for you?

tajstar6y ago

I would give https://coda.io/welcome a try it should meet all the criteria that you mentioned. I use it on the daily.

atiredturteOP6y ago

I've never heard of it. Looks promising! Thank you!

Edit: While the tables aren't perfect, this seems to be the best option so far.

ducatdusk6y ago

You've not said what platform you primarily work with but if you use MacOS/iOS then I can highly recommend DevonTHINK.

sandreas6y ago

Perhaps Typora? (https://typora.io/)

Down_n_Out6y ago

Reminds me a little of Bear[0]

[0] https://bear.app/

atiredturteOP6y ago

Looks really pretty! However, it seems to only be available for computers (no mobile support)

cweagans6y ago

You can use any Markdown editor on mobile. ia writer is a good one for both android and ios.

DoreenMichele6y ago

Private blogspot blog. You can add tables with a little HTML and CSS.

atiredturteOP6y ago

How would the mobile editing support be? I edit the items in the table very frequently and this is very important. Markdown-based solutions fail for me in this regard.

DoreenMichele6y ago

There is an app. I suggest you download it and try it.

You would need to do the HTML part of the table elsewhere, but you should be able to edit contents of the table in the app.

You can edit in a browser on mobile. Some browsers are better than others and it would likely be substantially impacted by phone type and size.

I sometimes do a surprising amount of HTML in the browser of my phone. I use the Edge browser.

You can add CSS to the template and that helps a lot with tables. For example, you can add CSS that adds a border and that changes the background of every other row.

I can get you a CSS snippet for that if you want and do a little tutorial post to walk you through it.

s_m6y ago

Google Docs?

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18 comments

anoncake6y ago

I use Org. It's part of Emacs, which you may consider either a dealbreaker or a feature.

superlepton6y ago

Would Simplenote suit your needs? It supports markdown so it should be possible to create tables, although I did not try it.

ssorc6y ago

Notion has tables; is there specific table functionality you need that they don’t offer?

https://www.keepproductive.com/blog/notion-tables

was_boring6y ago

Notion's tables are ironically too complex to use but not powerful enough to provide good functionality. It would have been better if they just had a a simple table like in Word.

It's like they tried to jam airtable into their product.

atiredturteOP6y ago

Their tables are more like databases. I am looking for a simple, static table that I can enter lots of information into.

shostack6y ago

I tried Notion but honestly found it to be overly complex for what I had primarily done in Evernote. Am I must missing some key workflow concepts with it?

asaddhamani6y ago

Seconded. Notion does have table, but perhaps their typing makes it a little clunky for you?

tajstar6y ago

I would give https://coda.io/welcome a try it should meet all the criteria that you mentioned. I use it on the daily.

atiredturteOP6y ago

I've never heard of it. Looks promising! Thank you!

Edit: While the tables aren't perfect, this seems to be the best option so far.

ducatdusk6y ago

You've not said what platform you primarily work with but if you use MacOS/iOS then I can highly recommend DevonTHINK.

sandreas6y ago

Perhaps Typora? (https://typora.io/)

Down_n_Out6y ago

Reminds me a little of Bear[0]

[0] https://bear.app/

atiredturteOP6y ago

Looks really pretty! However, it seems to only be available for computers (no mobile support)

cweagans6y ago

You can use any Markdown editor on mobile. ia writer is a good one for both android and ios.

DoreenMichele6y ago

Private blogspot blog. You can add tables with a little HTML and CSS.

atiredturteOP6y ago

How would the mobile editing support be? I edit the items in the table very frequently and this is very important. Markdown-based solutions fail for me in this regard.

DoreenMichele6y ago

There is an app. I suggest you download it and try it.

You would need to do the HTML part of the table elsewhere, but you should be able to edit contents of the table in the app.

You can edit in a browser on mobile. Some browsers are better than others and it would likely be substantially impacted by phone type and size.

I sometimes do a surprising amount of HTML in the browser of my phone. I use the Edge browser.

You can add CSS to the template and that helps a lot with tables. For example, you can add CSS that adds a border and that changes the background of every other row.

I can get you a CSS snippet for that if you want and do a little tutorial post to walk you through it.

s_m6y ago

Google Docs?

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse