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0 pointsdragonwriter7y ago0 comments

> It kinda bugs me that people say "SQL Server" to mean "Microsoft SQL Server". I mean there are other sql servers.

I don't mind that; sure, there are other RDBMS servers that support SQL as their main or exclusive language, but unless you are talking about ancient Sybase products (for which there is a very good reason for the shared branding) “SQL Server” is a clear, exclusive Microsoft product identity and not any worse of a label, say, FTP (yes, there are other file transfer protocols).

OTOH,what does bug me is when people say “SQL” to mean “Microsoft SQL Server”.

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buster7y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_Server

Same as "FTP Server" doesn't mean proftpd, "HTTP Server" doesn't mean apache and "C compiler" doesn't mean gcc. SQL is a language. Server is a generic term.

Another example: I may ask my colleague the following: "Which SQL server should we use in our new project?". Does this mean, i would like to know the edition and version of the MS SQL Server or maybe (and from my point of view more likely) i am looking for PostgreSQL, MySQL or MSSQL. If i'd like to know which edition and version i should use, i'd ask "Which MS SQL Server should i use?". That's a difference.

Might be that our views differ but i can understand the parents points.

Macha7y ago

But httpd does mean Apache, and sh means Bourne shell.

It also helps that nobody says "The SQL server is down" when their mysql instance is down. Even when using a generic term it's "the database is down"

pritambaral7y ago

> ... and sh means Bourne shell.

1. Except on Android, stock Debian/Ubuntu/etc., and in the bootloader and initramfs of my embedded OS;

2. I'm guessing you actually meant 'Bourne Again Shell' instead of 'Bourne Shell'.

yjftsjthsd-h7y ago

Eh... sh only refers to the generic specification of a bourne-family shell, usually bash or dash; almost nobody is actually using the original Bourne shell.

taffer7y ago

> It also helps that nobody says "The SQL server is down" when their mysql instance is down.

I've heard such sentences many times from many people.

zaarn7y ago

sh refers to a POSIX shell. The bourne shell (bsh) is not entirely compatible with the Bourne Against Shell (bash), and bash will switch to a compatibility mode if called as sh.

Additionally, many distros, including Ubuntu and Debian, do not use bash as their default shell. (Ubuntu/Debian use dash, Arch uses zsh, Alpine uses busybox sh)

bigato7y ago

In openbsd, httpd means their own webserver. In plan9, there is also a webserver called httpd.

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