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0 pointstracker16y ago0 comments

IE6 was pretty awesome when it was released... not having to support IE4.x and NN4.x when it hit sufficient market share was really nice. Eventually it became the next boat anchor. IE10-11 is the current boat anchor, and will probably cycle out within the next year. Already have internal apps with no IE support at all, and only the most recent Edge release.

The perspective on outdated (insecure) browsers is becoming more broadly accepted.

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octorian6y ago

> not having to support IE4.x and NN4.x when it hit sufficient market share was really nice.

Ahh yes, the era when far too many web developers gleefully gave the finger to anyone not running Windows. I'm so glad those days are over.

SmellyGeekBoy6y ago

IE was available for Mac OS and desktop Linux wasn't really a "thing" in those days so I'm not sure who they were giving the finger to. BeOS users?

tracker1OP6y ago

By the time Firefox came out, it lined up with IE6 well enough to use the same code (W3C DOM) methods mostly. IE4.x and NN4.x support was horrific, and worse than IE6 when Google did what TFA mentioned. Dropping support for IE4/NN4 didn't mean not supporting other current browsers.

When it was in the >90% market share, a lot of people did that though.

tty23006y ago

Our enterprise app (not internal) has 80% of users on IE11 :/

tjalfi6y ago

Did older versions of your app require IE? If so, their admins may have added your site to Enterprise Mode[0] so that it opens with IE.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/deploy/emie-...

tty23006y ago

Nope, this is a modern react/es6 app that's only about 5 years old.

tracker1OP6y ago

I'd suggest that comes down to the type of client/users you have... it's definitely not a common case. I'd also be willing to guess that most of those users also have a different browser installed. IE11 is pretty capable, but requires a lot of shims/shivs for modern code transpilation.

tty23006y ago

The customers have weird IE security tools/firewalls and are not allowed to use anything else.

For some reason they think that IE with very expensive tools to lock it down is more secure than a modern browser.

robocat6y ago

Ouch.

Our clients are businesses (less than 10000 employeees), and we still have 30% of userbase on Internet Explorer. We will soon be dropping IE9 and IE10 support.

I suspect that we'll be supporting IE11 for another two years or so (even considering Windows 7 expiry!).

H1Supreme6y ago

How is that even possible? Are they not allowed to use something else?

tty23006y ago

Yes. The 20% not on IE only left after we convinced their it department to switch.

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octorian6y ago

> not having to support IE4.x and NN4.x when it hit sufficient market share was really nice.

Ahh yes, the era when far too many web developers gleefully gave the finger to anyone not running Windows. I'm so glad those days are over.

SmellyGeekBoy6y ago

IE was available for Mac OS and desktop Linux wasn't really a "thing" in those days so I'm not sure who they were giving the finger to. BeOS users?

tracker1OP6y ago

When it was in the >90% market share, a lot of people did that though.

tty23006y ago

Our enterprise app (not internal) has 80% of users on IE11 :/

tjalfi6y ago

Did older versions of your app require IE? If so, their admins may have added your site to Enterprise Mode[0] so that it opens with IE.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/deploy/emie-...

tty23006y ago

Nope, this is a modern react/es6 app that's only about 5 years old.

tracker1OP6y ago

tty23006y ago

The customers have weird IE security tools/firewalls and are not allowed to use anything else.

For some reason they think that IE with very expensive tools to lock it down is more secure than a modern browser.

robocat6y ago

Ouch.

Our clients are businesses (less than 10000 employeees), and we still have 30% of userbase on Internet Explorer. We will soon be dropping IE9 and IE10 support.

I suspect that we'll be supporting IE11 for another two years or so (even considering Windows 7 expiry!).

H1Supreme6y ago

How is that even possible? Are they not allowed to use something else?

tty23006y ago

Yes. The 20% not on IE only left after we convinced their it department to switch.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse