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0 pointsMR4D6y ago0 comments

"The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does" [0]

Sydney J. Harris

[0] - https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sydney_J._Harris

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kaoD6y ago

That seems like a feel-good post-hoc euphemism (but ok, I accept that language evolves).

Either way: how did France (the nation) make any of these artworks? You could argue it was made by anyone in the spectrum ranging from "the artist" to "the humanity". Stopping at France seems arbitrary and a bit... nationalistic.

If any institution "made" them, it's the Catholic Church, not France.

MR4DOP6y ago

Given that France is "overwhelmingly Roman Catholic" [0], your last statement could be considered interchangeable. Perhaps (and I'm not French, so I don't know) many of the people consider them to be one and the same. Either way, it's a reasonable point that you made.

[0] - https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/...

kaoD6y ago

I see what you mean too, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%AFcit%C3%A9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dechristianization_of_France_d...

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0 pointsMR4D6y ago0 comments

"The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does" [0]

Sydney J. Harris

[0] - https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sydney_J._Harris

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kaoD6y ago

That seems like a feel-good post-hoc euphemism (but ok, I accept that language evolves).

If any institution "made" them, it's the Catholic Church, not France.

MR4DOP6y ago

[0] - https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/...

kaoD6y ago

I see what you mean too, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%AFcit%C3%A9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dechristianization_of_France_d...

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