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0 pointskrapp7y ago0 comments

>Now, if for some reason women don't take this road and "need" someone to hold their hand in order to learn programming, I would argue that maybe those women don't have the intrinsic motivation to do so and trying to force it upon them may be a gross waste of time and resources.

Why would you assume that a programming course amounts to "hand holding" just because a single gender is involved?

For that matter, why would you assume the women taking this course are unmotivated?

If this exact same program allowed men and women, would you still be casting the same aspersions only on the women, or would you also be implying that trying to "force" the men to program is a waste of time and resources?

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grondilu7y ago

> would you still be casting the same aspersions only on the women,

Gender is not important here. As a matter of fact, I wanted to edit my post and talk about people in general, but I did not bother. This article was about women.

My point is that I have the feeling that programming is something most people learn more or less for free with the documentation available online and with the help of online programming communities. The lack of intrinsic motivation is how I explain someone (woman or man) may need financial support and a IRL teacher.

krappOP7y ago

I don't think having someone fund a class or taking "IRL" classes are signs of a lack of intrinsic motivation. Plenty of motivated people have taken student loans to get through CS courses in actual colleges.

Nevertheless, the classes being offered here appear to be online, through Lambda School[0].

[0]https://lambdaschool.com/about/

QualityReboot7y ago

I think the optimal situation if you're applying to a program like this is to be a self-starter that's capable and interested in programming already, doing the same kind of self-learning that I did online without anyone asking my gender. Then if you happen to be a woman, you can go to one of these events, be the best in the class and treat it mostly as a networking opportunity.

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