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0 pointsHenryBemis7y ago0 comments

I've been buying/using iPhones since 2009. The last iPhone I bought was a 7+. Right after that I had sensed that Apple is messing around with us on the CPU thing, and it finally came out that they did. I now have a Honor X8, I am super content about this, it cost me 229 pounds, takes 2 SIM cards and a 128GB SD card.

I can also have a firewall NoRoot Firewall), more granular privacy controls, I can root and and replace my hosts file, and some other nifty security/privacy things for paranoids like me.

Is it as polished as an iPhone? No Does it cover all my needs fully (and them some)? Yes Did I pay 1/6 of the price? Yes (trust me I can affort any smartphone) Do I think Apple is milking it and offers nothing new? HELL YES

I am happy that their stock is getting slapped, Apple put themselves in that position.

As for the Chinese economy, at some point many countries will reduce imports from China for a variety of reasons, and the slowing dowin is inevitable. Apple messed it up on many domains. Now they are paying for it.

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gwright7y ago

> Apple is messing around with us on the CPU thing

Are you referring to modulating the power usage to avoid random shutdowns? If so, I don't understand why people have viewed that as a nefarious scheme. Seems completely reasonable to me. The newer user-visible stats on battery health and power usage are also a good idea, but don't change the physics involved, you still need to modulate power usage to match what is available or shut down.

HenryBemisOP7y ago

They lost me the moment they kept it a secret and they practically monetized on this.

I would gladly pay for a new (£50-£70) battery every 2 years to keep my phone up and running. It is the lack of transparency that made me angry. I do have the technical skills/knowledge to understand the reasons. I also have the critical thinking to (imho) dismiss their BS answer that they force me to spend £1000 instead of £50. And this is where they killed my 'loyalty' to their products.

dankoss7y ago

Every other manufacturer of battery powered devices, including laptops, does CPU throttling based on battery degradation, and doesn't mention anything about it. It sounds like you were just looking for an excuse to jump ship.

nkozyra7y ago

> Do I think Apple is milking it and offers nothing new? HELL YES

But this really isn't the question. People "overpay" for luxury goods all the time in lieu of higher quality cheaper products.

Selling expensive stuff doesn't necessarily mean you have to or should have the best stuff.

HenryBemisOP7y ago

I don't buy the Marketing lingo. I like the touch & feel. I am one of those people who don't feel "special" or "good for myself" because I have a £1000 phone. I am happy/content because a 'machine' adds value to my life. My phone helps me listen to my podcasts, and helps me navigate when I travel. My Nutribullet helps me make great Paleo smoothies.

I am sure that I am not 100% immune to marketing, but I like to prefer the function over the plush.

Luxury is for other people. I prefer F.I.R.E instead :) I do understand that Marketing creates artificial needs, and I want to believe that I avoid it :)

Markoff7y ago

while 8X it's great deal it has extremely mediocre baskets compared to iPhone, heck even Xiaomi Mi A2 for like 160€ has better camera

and no you can't root Huawei phones without unlocking bootloader, not unless you are willing to part with significant fee to shady third party for something which was provided for free by Huawei

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0 pointsHenryBemis7y ago0 comments

I can also have a firewall NoRoot Firewall), more granular privacy controls, I can root and and replace my hosts file, and some other nifty security/privacy things for paranoids like me.

I am happy that their stock is getting slapped, Apple put themselves in that position.

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gwright7y ago

> Apple is messing around with us on the CPU thing

HenryBemisOP7y ago

They lost me the moment they kept it a secret and they practically monetized on this.

dankoss7y ago

nkozyra7y ago

> Do I think Apple is milking it and offers nothing new? HELL YES

But this really isn't the question. People "overpay" for luxury goods all the time in lieu of higher quality cheaper products.

Selling expensive stuff doesn't necessarily mean you have to or should have the best stuff.

HenryBemisOP7y ago

I am sure that I am not 100% immune to marketing, but I like to prefer the function over the plush.

Luxury is for other people. I prefer F.I.R.E instead :) I do understand that Marketing creates artificial needs, and I want to believe that I avoid it :)

Markoff7y ago

while 8X it's great deal it has extremely mediocre baskets compared to iPhone, heck even Xiaomi Mi A2 for like 160€ has better camera

and no you can't root Huawei phones without unlocking bootloader, not unless you are willing to part with significant fee to shady third party for something which was provided for free by Huawei

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse