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0 pointsphotomatt7y ago0 comments

Check out Jetpack, it can auto-update all your plugins, and has a "Rewind" feature with real-time backups so you can one-click take your site back to a previous state if anything didn't work.

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dazc7y ago

Jetpack has some nice features, the comments form especially. It is, however, very bloated - especially since you'll often only use 2 or 3 features on any one site.

photomattOP7y ago

Since Jetpack code is also what we run on WP.com (tens of billions of pageviews) it goes through a huge amount of performance tuning and optimization. The way modules work when you turn them off they don't have any overhead, similar to turning off a plugin. If you were using literally one thing it might feel like a lot, but as soon as you use 2-3+ things Jetpack does it's a lot more efficient than separate individual plugins to accomplish the same task.

chiefalchemist7y ago

Can you give a couple examples of when / how Jetpack has to be a single plugin, instead itself being a suite of individual plugins?

If the knock on that product is bloats, and the compromises adoption, how is X a benefit to those who refuses to abopt the whole alphabet?

coldtea7y ago

It's not like features you don't use slow you down, or that the < 1 MB of code they take on disk is important.

ryanwaggoner7y ago

I did a lot of WP dev from 2007 to 2011 or so, and I still run my businesses on Wordpress today. I hadn't really dug into Gutenberg yet, but I just played with https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ and I think a lot of people are overreacting. It's a very big change, but it feels like the right move for the future of Wordpress. I'm sure it's not easy to move a community forward in a new direction when there is a global ecosystem comprised of tens (hundreds?) of millions of websites, developers, designers, users, and entire companies invested in the status quo. I don't envy you!

Also, appreciate you still stopping into HN to chat :)

chiefalchemist7y ago

Hi Matt. Maybe not assume everyone here knows who you are? And instead at some point make note of the bias in your recommendation?

HN =/= WordCamp etc.

Tia :)

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dazc7y ago

Jetpack has some nice features, the comments form especially. It is, however, very bloated - especially since you'll often only use 2 or 3 features on any one site.

photomattOP7y ago

chiefalchemist7y ago

Can you give a couple examples of when / how Jetpack has to be a single plugin, instead itself being a suite of individual plugins?

If the knock on that product is bloats, and the compromises adoption, how is X a benefit to those who refuses to abopt the whole alphabet?

coldtea7y ago

It's not like features you don't use slow you down, or that the < 1 MB of code they take on disk is important.

ryanwaggoner7y ago

Also, appreciate you still stopping into HN to chat :)

chiefalchemist7y ago

Hi Matt. Maybe not assume everyone here knows who you are? And instead at some point make note of the bias in your recommendation?

HN =/= WordCamp etc.

Tia :)

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