WordPress 5.0 introduces a flexible block-based content editor (opens in new tab)

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brylie7y ago· 4 in thread

For Pythonistas, Wagtail takes a similar approach to content authoring with its StreamField:

https://wagtail.io/

http://docs.wagtail.io/en/v2.3/topics/streamfield.html

jonnyscholes7y ago

Whilst also maintaining a great developer experience too! I'd never enjoyed working with CMS' until I met Wagtail.

2.4 just got it's first release candidate and has a bunch of enhancements aimed at first time users so it's a good time to give it a go!

fleetfox7y ago

Meh, it's better than wordpress for sure but it has many warts. There is no i18n story and "modelcluster" is just a bad idea.

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FormFollowsFunc7y ago

Wagtail is a great CMS for developers. WordPress is for end users.

brylie7y ago

The Wagtail admin UI seems to be designed for end users, and is very similar to WordPress UI.

pmlnr7y ago· 2 in thread

What the article doesn't mention is that the new editor is completely incompatible with a serious amount of plugins due to the redesigned Edit page. There are severe accessibility issues with it[^1], and, in general, it breaks formerly working core features, such as reordering galleries (this is a first hand experience).

Gutenberg is going to be disastrous in short term, in long term - we're talking years -, it may come out nice.

Those not willing to deal with it should take a look at https://www.classicpress.net/

[^1]: https://wptavern.com/gutenberg-accessibility-audit-postponed...

apatters7y ago

If you still need or want the old editing experience, you don't need to switch to a fork. WordPress is keeping the old editor available as a plugin for at least the next 4 years: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/

Anyone who made customizations to the old editor has 4+ years to figure out what to do about Gutenberg (plus they have had the 2 or so years that it has already spent in beta).

yopper8977y ago

There's a Classic Editor plugin (with support until 2022) for people who are unable to switch: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/

I believe Gutenberg is intended for newly-built sites, it's a big improvement.

ivanstegic7y ago· 2 in thread

How is it that the article makes no mention of the significant accessibility issues with the editor and the resignation of at least one key figure in the community?

https://make.wordpress.org/accessibility/2018/10/29/report-o...

https://wptavern.com/wordpress-accessibility-team-lead-resig...

johnchristopher7y ago

Because it's an eight sentences announcement article and not an opinion piece or an in-depth review.

That being said, it's amazing a CMS with such a market share and devmind seems to be so constrained in resources.

GuiA7y ago

> That being said, it's amazing a CMS with such a market share and devmind seems to be so constrained in resources.

That’s what happens when you don’t have a bunch of investors throwing money at you to pay for a growth team that can figure out how to optimize every second of user engagement to maximize ad revenue.

It is a major problem in the software landscape today, and there is no obvious solution.

johnchristopher7y ago· 1 in thread

It's weird they didn't include the pre-built page from the Gutenberg demo to highlight the new editor.

Right now the first impression is quite arid and doesn't look anything like https://make.wordpress.org/core/2018/10/16/introducing-twent...

fmajid7y ago

They've committed to supporting the classic editor until 2022.

boot137y ago

As long as the traditional editor remains an option I won't mind. If they force it on us, that could be a problem. I try every new version of Gutenberg for posting on one of my sites, and so far I've had to switch back to the traditional editor every time. From the Wordpress 5.0 welcome page: "Support for the Classic Editor plugin will remain in WordPress through 2021... Note to users of assistive technology: if you experience usability issues with the block editor, we recommend you continue to use the Classic Editor."

smashu7y ago

This update was a really bad decision, because it broke my wordpress websites which used carbon fields (https://carbonfields.net).

This plugin disables Gutenberg https://perishablepress.com/disable-gutenberg/

sxp620007y ago

The new editor looks slick, but it's kind of confusing when you start using it. It works for simple sites that you can build with things like the ones you see on Squarespace, but to use Wordpress like a real CMS you still need metaboxes.

fmajid7y ago

A lot of spaghetti inline JS code means it's incompatible with any site with a sane Content-Security-Policy. I'm glad I switched to Hugo, now I need to migrate my wife's blogs.

ccnafr7y ago

Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18627020

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18 comments · 9 top-level

brylie7y ago· 4 in thread

For Pythonistas, Wagtail takes a similar approach to content authoring with its StreamField:

https://wagtail.io/

http://docs.wagtail.io/en/v2.3/topics/streamfield.html

jonnyscholes7y ago

Whilst also maintaining a great developer experience too! I'd never enjoyed working with CMS' until I met Wagtail.

2.4 just got it's first release candidate and has a bunch of enhancements aimed at first time users so it's a good time to give it a go!

fleetfox7y ago

Meh, it's better than wordpress for sure but it has many warts. There is no i18n story and "modelcluster" is just a bad idea.

1 more reply

FormFollowsFunc7y ago

Wagtail is a great CMS for developers. WordPress is for end users.

brylie7y ago

The Wagtail admin UI seems to be designed for end users, and is very similar to WordPress UI.

pmlnr7y ago· 2 in thread

Gutenberg is going to be disastrous in short term, in long term - we're talking years -, it may come out nice.

Those not willing to deal with it should take a look at https://www.classicpress.net/

[^1]: https://wptavern.com/gutenberg-accessibility-audit-postponed...

apatters7y ago

Anyone who made customizations to the old editor has 4+ years to figure out what to do about Gutenberg (plus they have had the 2 or so years that it has already spent in beta).

yopper8977y ago

There's a Classic Editor plugin (with support until 2022) for people who are unable to switch: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/

I believe Gutenberg is intended for newly-built sites, it's a big improvement.

ivanstegic7y ago· 2 in thread

How is it that the article makes no mention of the significant accessibility issues with the editor and the resignation of at least one key figure in the community?

https://make.wordpress.org/accessibility/2018/10/29/report-o...

https://wptavern.com/wordpress-accessibility-team-lead-resig...

johnchristopher7y ago

Because it's an eight sentences announcement article and not an opinion piece or an in-depth review.

That being said, it's amazing a CMS with such a market share and devmind seems to be so constrained in resources.

GuiA7y ago

> That being said, it's amazing a CMS with such a market share and devmind seems to be so constrained in resources.

It is a major problem in the software landscape today, and there is no obvious solution.

johnchristopher7y ago· 1 in thread

It's weird they didn't include the pre-built page from the Gutenberg demo to highlight the new editor.

Right now the first impression is quite arid and doesn't look anything like https://make.wordpress.org/core/2018/10/16/introducing-twent...

fmajid7y ago

They've committed to supporting the classic editor until 2022.

boot137y ago

smashu7y ago

This update was a really bad decision, because it broke my wordpress websites which used carbon fields (https://carbonfields.net).

This plugin disables Gutenberg https://perishablepress.com/disable-gutenberg/

sxp620007y ago

fmajid7y ago

A lot of spaghetti inline JS code means it's incompatible with any site with a sane Content-Security-Policy. I'm glad I switched to Hugo, now I need to migrate my wife's blogs.

ccnafr7y ago

Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18627020

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