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0 pointsmossplix7y ago0 comments

So webkit is not monoculture? Are you forgetting about konqueror?

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That person meant that if all the main browsers move to Chromium, then it will dominate and cause a monoculture; the same way that Internet Explorer caused a monoculture in the 90s and 00s.

Pointing out that there are competitors doesn't change that their presence doesn't overthrow the monoculture. After all, Gecko was around for a long time and Firefox did become very popular very quickly after version 2; but realistically, it took until Apple put WebKit on iOS for any real dents to be made.

Also, I think Konqueror still uses KHTML by default. I don't know if Konqueror tracks WebKit, but I think they're rather different these days.

emilsedgh7y ago

Unfortunately there's near 0 development behind KHTML and Konqueror. That's been the case for many years now.

KHTML was the only community driven browser engine and thank god for it. God knows what the browse landscape would've been without it.

zapzupnz7y ago

That's a shame. Back when I was a full-time Linuxer, I used Konqueror as my default browser. The good ol' days of KHTML.

Despegar7y ago

How could it be a monoculture with 14% market share?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

zapzupnz7y ago

Why are you citing Safari's 14% market share when the person to whom you responded was stating that if it's true that Edge will become Chromium-based, then browsers running on Chromium will represent something like 66% of the world's web engine share. Heck, it's already 59%, over half. With Opera, Vivaldi, and Edge (or whatever Anaheim will become), we're talking two thirds of all browsers being based on one engine.

That's the monoculture.

Edit: didn't realise you were responding to someone refuting what you had said, haha. so basically we agree, I just thought you were someone else.

Despegar7y ago

I'm saying that WebKit can't be a monoculture because Safari only has 14% market share. It doesn't matter if other devices and browsers that no one actually uses are WebKit.

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zapzupnz7y ago

That person meant that if all the main browsers move to Chromium, then it will dominate and cause a monoculture; the same way that Internet Explorer caused a monoculture in the 90s and 00s.

Also, I think Konqueror still uses KHTML by default. I don't know if Konqueror tracks WebKit, but I think they're rather different these days.

emilsedgh7y ago

Unfortunately there's near 0 development behind KHTML and Konqueror. That's been the case for many years now.

KHTML was the only community driven browser engine and thank god for it. God knows what the browse landscape would've been without it.

zapzupnz7y ago

That's a shame. Back when I was a full-time Linuxer, I used Konqueror as my default browser. The good ol' days of KHTML.

Despegar7y ago

How could it be a monoculture with 14% market share?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

zapzupnz7y ago

That's the monoculture.

Edit: didn't realise you were responding to someone refuting what you had said, haha. so basically we agree, I just thought you were someone else.

Despegar7y ago

I'm saying that WebKit can't be a monoculture because Safari only has 14% market share. It doesn't matter if other devices and browsers that no one actually uses are WebKit.

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