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0 pointslaingc7y ago0 comments

If you’ve used both R and another, more reasonable language for any length of time, it’s perfectly coherent.

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I'm using both R and Python on a daily basis (plus -- occasionally -- Clojure, Java and CL). Still, I don't understand what you mean.

gaius7y ago

In the Tidyverse everything in R is perfectly logical and coherent. What would you consider to be a “reasonable” language then?

nerdponx7y ago

Base R is also perfectly logical and coherent. If anything, it's so coherent for statistics work that it makes non-statistics work harder than it should be. For a 30-year old language that started life as a statistics package, that's pretty good.

R is no harder to read than C IMO, even badly-written R without spaces, indentation, proper line breaks, etc.

mangecoeur7y ago

One where it was not necessary to specially create a ‘tidy’ version of everything to escape the horrific mess that exists by default

ryanmonroe7y ago

It would help if you said explicitly what language you think is better in this respect. Having Data Frames in Python at all requires importing Pandas afaik, so criticizing R for requiring an extra data-manipulation package wouldn't make sense from a Python perspective.

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mike_ivanov7y ago

OK, I see. The debate is gradually coming to the pitchforks and torches phase. Tons of adjectives and still zero meaningful input. I insist on explaining what the "horrific mess" part is about.

gaius7y ago

Your language was perfect the day it was created was it? R and it’s ecosystem stand head and shoulders above the rest.

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mike_ivanov7y ago

I'm using both R and Python on a daily basis (plus -- occasionally -- Clojure, Java and CL). Still, I don't understand what you mean.

gaius7y ago

In the Tidyverse everything in R is perfectly logical and coherent. What would you consider to be a “reasonable” language then?

nerdponx7y ago

R is no harder to read than C IMO, even badly-written R without spaces, indentation, proper line breaks, etc.

mangecoeur7y ago

One where it was not necessary to specially create a ‘tidy’ version of everything to escape the horrific mess that exists by default

ryanmonroe7y ago

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mike_ivanov7y ago

OK, I see. The debate is gradually coming to the pitchforks and torches phase. Tons of adjectives and still zero meaningful input. I insist on explaining what the "horrific mess" part is about.

gaius7y ago

Your language was perfect the day it was created was it? R and it’s ecosystem stand head and shoulders above the rest.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse