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0 pointseropple7y ago0 comments

Nobody is restricting Google from doing anything. They are expressing--in a way that is part of, and frankly should be expected of being a member of, one of those "free societies" you mention--that Google is unwelcome, and no, nobody is obligated to make you feel welcome. There are cases where not making somebody welcome kinda makes you an asshole, but that does not, frankly, apply to anybody who's got a stock ticker symbol.

This is "you piss in the pool wherever you go, please stay away from our pool." This isn't NIMBY in any meaningful way and the comparison is downright mendacious.

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bko7y ago· 4 in thread

> Nobody is restricting Google from doing anything

From the article: In September activists occupied the building it was to be located in for several hours.

That seems like the activists were preventing them

> This is "you piss in the pool wherever you go, please stay away from our pool." This isn't NIMBY in any meaningful way and the comparison is downright mendacious.

Saying you do [something I don't like] and I don't want you to do [thing I don't like] in my neighborhood is exactly NIMBY

eroppleOP7y ago

You realize that Google has billions upon billions of dollars and effectively unlimited weight to throw around, yes? A few protestors hanging out in a building does not prevent them from doing anything they want to. They have run the numbers and presumably realized that having your neighbors not want you there is not worth the PR hit of doing it--but literally nobody is stopping it from happening.

This poor-benighted-Google thing is gross. These companies are not on anyone's side.

mehrdadn7y ago

> Saying you do [something I don't like] and I don't want you to do [thing I don't like] in my neighborhood is exactly NIMBY

No, that's most definitely not NIMBY. NIMBY means you support something when it's farther away but oppose it happening close to you. It stands for "not in my backyard", not "not in any backyard".

bko7y ago

Presumably the residents there use Google services. They likely want Google to exist, but just not in their back yard

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eroppleOP7y ago

Exactly. The "my" part is operative here.

If I had to guess, a lot of those protestors probably don't care if Google ever opens an office anywhere--but, not being billion-dollar panopticons-as-a-service, they are constrained to act locally rather than globally.

C1sc0cat7y ago· 2 in thread

Well your not welcome (google in this case) but that doesn't give you the right to deny others who might want to move to berlin and work for google - that sound s like UKip policy in the uk.

And what does having a stock ticker matter presumably you took advantage of the German miracle and the rise of VW and others.

detaro7y ago

They aren't denying Google and it's employees the right to move to Berlin, there's tons of areas in Berlin for tech companies to be, some tolerant of them, some actively trying to get more companies to move in. (and of course Google legally would have been free to move in despite the protests, but choose not to). That's needlessly over-the-top rhetoric for a localized protest.

chobeat7y ago

This would go against the interests of the locals, that, frankly, in a community should come before the interests of some programmer that would find a job somewhere else.

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ajmurmann7y ago

"you piss in the pool wherever you go, please stay away from our pool."

Several people mentioned something to this effect. Nobody makes clear what they are referring to. Is this just about gentrification?

manfredo7y ago

> This is "you piss in the pool wherever you go, please stay away from our pool." This isn't NIMBY in any meaningful way and the comparison is downright mendacious

It's also the same line of thinking behind Trump's wall and hostility to immigration in general: "people I don't like should stay out."

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10 comments · 4 top-level

bko7y ago· 4 in thread

> Nobody is restricting Google from doing anything

From the article: In September activists occupied the building it was to be located in for several hours.

That seems like the activists were preventing them

> This is "you piss in the pool wherever you go, please stay away from our pool." This isn't NIMBY in any meaningful way and the comparison is downright mendacious.

Saying you do [something I don't like] and I don't want you to do [thing I don't like] in my neighborhood is exactly NIMBY

eroppleOP7y ago

This poor-benighted-Google thing is gross. These companies are not on anyone's side.

mehrdadn7y ago

> Saying you do [something I don't like] and I don't want you to do [thing I don't like] in my neighborhood is exactly NIMBY

No, that's most definitely not NIMBY. NIMBY means you support something when it's farther away but oppose it happening close to you. It stands for "not in my backyard", not "not in any backyard".

bko7y ago

Presumably the residents there use Google services. They likely want Google to exist, but just not in their back yard

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eroppleOP7y ago

Exactly. The "my" part is operative here.

C1sc0cat7y ago· 2 in thread

Well your not welcome (google in this case) but that doesn't give you the right to deny others who might want to move to berlin and work for google - that sound s like UKip policy in the uk.

And what does having a stock ticker matter presumably you took advantage of the German miracle and the rise of VW and others.

detaro7y ago

chobeat7y ago

This would go against the interests of the locals, that, frankly, in a community should come before the interests of some programmer that would find a job somewhere else.

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ajmurmann7y ago

"you piss in the pool wherever you go, please stay away from our pool."

Several people mentioned something to this effect. Nobody makes clear what they are referring to. Is this just about gentrification?

manfredo7y ago

> This is "you piss in the pool wherever you go, please stay away from our pool." This isn't NIMBY in any meaningful way and the comparison is downright mendacious

It's also the same line of thinking behind Trump's wall and hostility to immigration in general: "people I don't like should stay out."

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