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0 pointsshaklee37y ago0 comments

I think it's already been said many times to you, but it's not just long exposure. They take many exposures, throw out the over-exposed (which slrs don't do), and use AI to do smart color mapping in very dark regions. There are no cameras or software out there that produce results like this. Period. There are now plenty of night sight pictures compared next to the new iPhone. The iPhone looks objectively terrible compared to the pixel. Is that because the pixel has a much better sensor? No. Apple would buy it if so. It's computational photography, and there's nothing Apple or Samsung can do in the short term to match it.

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endorphone7y ago

There are no cameras or software out there that produce results like this. Period.

The Huawei P20 has a night mode that in many cases is superior. So much for the "period". Further it's gimmicky and has downsides that make it pertinent for a tiny percentage of pictures. Which is why it's hidden behind a "more" option. Apple doesn't have it because Apple is about making everything easy for the 99%.

Image stacking is not difficult. It is not new. Image stacking is effectively a long exposure (I've said this probably a dozen times, but still it's like people are correcting me), with some unique advantages, and some unique disadvantages. In every one of the examples given it is indistinguishable from a long exposure.

shaklee3OP7y ago

See my other comment in this thread. The Huawei does not have anything close. Look at the dxomark review. The Huawei is comparable to both the pixel 2 and iPhone in the dark shots, and may be better or worse depending on the photo. Now look at this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/9qzyry/pixel_2...

I know this is true because I've tried it. I have the camera loaded on a pixel 2, and the iPhone is pitch dark in images where the pixel is fully illuminated with night sight.

More details here: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12676/the-huawei-p20-p20-pro-...

And remember anandtech did not have night sight. The p20 quality is attributed to the larger sensor.

endorphone7y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKHnKkNSyw

"The Huawei does not have anything close"

The P20 Pro's night mode is arguably better than the Pixels. It is sharper, works in worse light, and has more natural colours. You also seem to be confused into thinking that DXOMark enables every special mode. They don't. The reviews are overwhelmingly simply the auto settings.

The argument I'm seeing in favor of the Pixel generally is "waves hand {magic AI!}". Sorry, I don't care how much HN is infected by Googlers and Pixel fanboys, there is zero evidence of any magical AI in the Pixel results, and they look absolutely bog standard.

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endorphone7y ago

There are no cameras or software out there that produce results like this. Period.

shaklee3OP7y ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/9qzyry/pixel_2...

I know this is true because I've tried it. I have the camera loaded on a pixel 2, and the iPhone is pitch dark in images where the pixel is fully illuminated with night sight.

More details here: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12676/the-huawei-p20-p20-pro-...

And remember anandtech did not have night sight. The p20 quality is attributed to the larger sensor.

endorphone7y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKHnKkNSyw

"The Huawei does not have anything close"

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