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0 pointsgeofft7y ago0 comments

What are "sexist remarks"? Is allowing men to be rude because that's the social stereotype of productive men, and telling equally rude women that they're shrill and need to tone it down and be less emotional, a sexist remark? It only overtly references the individual contributor, not their gender.

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cabraca7y ago· 2 in thread

why allow someone to be rude? we are professionals, we should not be rude to another.

> Is [...] telling [...] women that they're shrill and need to tone it down and be less emotional, a sexist remark?

if it targets all women i would say yes. if its in a discussion and alice IS too emotional and shrill i would say no (but its badly phrased).

everyone should be able to take a step back from a discussion and reflect. am i too emotional? did i maybe take a wrong turn? dont take everything personal. sometimes text does sound angry and agressive, but wasn't meant to be. people are not good at communication. allow some room for misinterpretation.

geofftOP7y ago

So there is a gray area. Are you permitted under the code of merit to ask in good faith, "Is Bob acting like this towards all women?" It seems like if the answer is "No, just Alice," you are the one who brought up unrelated demographic topics and accusations of bias and have violated the Code—which means the code serves to have a chilling effect on good-faith discussions about whether the Code is being violated by established, "senior" contributors.

cabraca7y ago

thats where "you have to assume good intentions" comes in. if you ask that in good faith, to get a clear picture of bob and resolve misinterpretations, no harm is done. i dont care where you ask that, but you can do that. the CoM does not prevent discussing those topics (e.g. to resolve misunderstandings). it just states that they are irrelevant for "your value or that of your contribution".

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