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0 pointszaarn7y ago0 comments

>But to come back: crappy networks are not a reason to ditch "custom" ports. Fix the network.

I heavily disagree. Broken and crappy networks exist and for the user it's easier if the software we write works on broken and crappy networks. Most users will not complain to the network if YOUR software doesn't work on it but other software works fine.

That's simply the reality of the situation.

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gsich7y ago

You can disagree all you want. Nothing will change if you build for crappy networks. Build your application so that it can detect such a setup and tell the user.

It works for gaming. This alone is proof that it can work.

zaarnOP7y ago

It works for gaming because most games that need non-crappy networks happen to run on connections that are more rarely crappy networks.

And despite that I get regular issues when I need to play true p2p lobby games because of various people having a variety of difficult-to-work-around routers or ISPs. So in part atleast it doesn't work for gaming either. I don't consider your proof valid.

gsich7y ago

If you consider port 80/443 as essential, then you can add 853 to that list. Every network who blocks it, blocks an essential port, similar to blocking 443. This is the angle one needs to work with here. Why keep the status quo for all eternity?

People have difficulties port forwarding. It's fixable, but then again, this is a different issue. You are talking about incoming ports, not outgoing.

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0 pointszaarn7y ago0 comments

>But to come back: crappy networks are not a reason to ditch "custom" ports. Fix the network.

That's simply the reality of the situation.

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gsich7y ago

You can disagree all you want. Nothing will change if you build for crappy networks. Build your application so that it can detect such a setup and tell the user.

It works for gaming. This alone is proof that it can work.

zaarnOP7y ago

It works for gaming because most games that need non-crappy networks happen to run on connections that are more rarely crappy networks.

gsich7y ago

People have difficulties port forwarding. It's fixable, but then again, this is a different issue. You are talking about incoming ports, not outgoing.

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