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0 pointslatchkey7y ago0 comments

ant, maven and gradle are not shipped with the JVM, yet the java community figures out how to do a build system somehow.

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Nullabillity7y ago

Java doesn't bundle and market a `java get` command that works fine until it suddenly dosn't.

latchkeyOP7y ago

The `go get` command was never marketed as a versioned package management tool. `go get` also works just fine if you point it at forked repositories that you control.

Nullabillity7y ago

> The `go get` command was never marketed as a versioned package management tool.

Because the Go team kept pushing the ridiculous idea that versioning doesn't matter.

> `go get` also works just fine if you point it at forked repositories that you control.

And at that point, what value does `go get` add?

Karunamon7y ago

in fairness, Java has an excuse that it’s ancient in language terms and expectations were different then.

Go, not so much - it came out in 2012. Pip and CPAN and Gem had been around for years. Go’s lack of a sane packaging solution this far into its lifetime remains a serious weakness of an otherwise solid platform.

latchkeyOP7y ago

One could argue that golang is a solid platform because they focused on the platform first, instead of the package management. It is all about priorities.

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Nullabillity7y ago

Java doesn't bundle and market a `java get` command that works fine until it suddenly dosn't.

latchkeyOP7y ago

The `go get` command was never marketed as a versioned package management tool. `go get` also works just fine if you point it at forked repositories that you control.

Nullabillity7y ago

> The `go get` command was never marketed as a versioned package management tool.

Because the Go team kept pushing the ridiculous idea that versioning doesn't matter.

> `go get` also works just fine if you point it at forked repositories that you control.

And at that point, what value does `go get` add?

Karunamon7y ago

in fairness, Java has an excuse that it’s ancient in language terms and expectations were different then.

latchkeyOP7y ago

One could argue that golang is a solid platform because they focused on the platform first, instead of the package management. It is all about priorities.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse