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0 pointsdrasticmeasures7y ago0 comments

In my inevitably biased view, I see democratic Internet voting-based comment filtering as a tool that will be exploited by state, corporate or other pretender political actors for censoring speech and promoting their own speech -- no matter the technical implementation, they have the resources to easily buy 30k votes to use on any thread and skew perception on topics vital to their agenda, and we have been doing so for years not just on Reddit with votes, but anywhere where there is an user-input box, and using a variety of textbook mass social engineering tactics.

Knowing the problem so personally, I'm partial to throwing out voting-based comment filtering altogether and replacing it with a mix of the Metafilter and the Slashdot models: make registration an one-time $5 fee; let there be a "firehose" that isn't filtered by votes, but organized by date posted; let there be professional editors that select and curate user-posted links; and let the comments be organized by date from older to newest by default (this prevents a lot of the manipulation, as the oldest comments are usually free from manipulation, since we can't get to the thread faster, and undermine later manipulation, since usually people follow the leader comment), or, even better, get rid of comments altogether because a reliable and open forum like you had in the 1990s is something good (and dangerous) that you will never have again, or at least not without state-level attempts at infiltration.

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go1dfish7y ago· 1 in thread

So one of the fundamental differences between GUN and a blockchain is peers don't need to have the same dataset, or to necessarily agree on the state of the world.

The goal with notabug is that you should be able to run a peer with any sort of moderation structure you like including what you describe.

It's already possible with just ui changes to ignore votes entirely. the new sort works this way.

Comments can be sorted by new in this manner as well but isn't exposed in the UI yet.

The filtering you describe will be achievable with the moderation system I plan to build here:

https://notabug.io/t/notabug/comments/ea1104bf0535370d0b27a1...

You would set up a lens with a list of users (public keys) who paid you the verification fee.

You build a space with that lens as the good lens, and lenses for each of your editors to remove or highlight content in other spaces.

I don't know what the best model for online communities is. My vision for notabug.io is to shamelessly clone open source reddit in functionality and UX. But my vision for notabug more generally is as a system for disparate approaches to online forums in a connected system.

drasticmeasuresOP7y ago

The possibilities sound very interesting, specially as an experiment to minimize the damage of social media's capability to be a very powerful, cheap and all-inclusive propaganda tool capable of causing society-wide disruption, and all the state, corporate and pretender political actors interference that come with that kind of threat; the combination of actors with state powers with anonymity making them unnoticed and unaccountable particularly terrify me; I will look into it.

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