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0 pointspier257y ago0 comments

Sadly I agree.

Climate change is one of the reasons we're not having kids. In part because they would have had a very bad life, but also because it's the best for the planet.

Reducing consumption of resources is not working, so we should start thinking about controlling population growth.

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gepi797y ago· 2 in thread

If you want kids then have kids. Individual actions do not matter globally.

We are far away from global overpopulation. Unless people insist on fossil fuel, waste of resources and animal products as food.

More people are needed for more work for a better world.

Have a good life because it is important for work for improvement. Improvement means better technology.

I know about the dangerous situation but I am still optimistic for humans.

http://landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127

https://thinkprogress.org/solar-wind-keep-getting-cheaper-33...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLRiaCjRkw

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-carbon/scie...

https://phys.org/news/2017-09-solar-to-fuel-recycles-co2-eth...

https://www.or.is/carbfix

pier25OP7y ago

> Individual actions do not matter globally.

The forest is still composed by trees.

> We are far away from global overpopulation. Unless people insist on fossil fuel, waste of resources and animal products as food.

You are technically right, of course, but if humans were rational creatures we would have acted on climate change when the evidence was presented to the world.

gepi797y ago

> The forest is still composed by trees.

Yes, but most people do not improve their behavior until nature or some culture or some law enforces the change.

The efforts of many are wasted by the ignorance or carelessness or selfishness or insanity or lack of choice of many others.

toasterlovin7y ago· 2 in thread

As an individual, you are powerless to control population growth. If you decide not to have kids, the world will get filled with the descendants of other people. The descendants of those other people will probably care less about what happens to the environment than your descendants would.

Dealing with the issues of the future will require collective action. In order for that collective action to take place, people will need to vote for it. Having kids means more people to vote for the things you think need to be voted for (since they will share your genetics and you will heavily influence their environment).

So you should have kids.

ForHackernews7y ago

You're still pretending like your kids or those other peoples' kids might get together and fix climate change. I'm saying it's too late for that.

Having kids is just condemning them to live in a world ravaged by famine, war and drought. Maybe you're fine with that because you believe on some philosophical level that any life is preferable to never having lived at all, but that's not self-evident.

toasterlovin7y ago

Black Americans are living proof that a lot of people thought a life of slavery was worth living, despite it's utter terribleness. I think it’s a good bet that living in a world with global warming is better than slavery.

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