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0 pointsjhasse7y ago0 comments

> They are clearly related as a suite of applications which form the core experience of what is called “Android”.

I'm using Android every day and never once opened Chrome (instead I'm using the Lightning browser) or used the Google app to search (I'm just searching directly in my browser). So IMHO that's definitely NOT the core experience of Android, while the Play Store is.

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endorphone7y ago

Neat. So the OS allowed you to choose alternatives and to avoid Chrome wholly. So you're fully of the opinion that the EU argument has no merit then, right?

Of course, saying it's a part of the Android/Google Experience is from the average consumer. You know that you have the Chrome browser if you so choose. Yes, you can go to the Play Store and install Firefox. Unlike on iOS where the browser alternatives are facades.

jhasseOP7y ago

It's the same argument as with Microsoft vs. the EU regarding IE: Defaults are important when you have a monopoly.

joshuamorton7y ago

I'm pretty sure that an important part of the Microsoft argument was that you couldn't uninstall ie and it was used by certain system functions even if you set a different default. That's an important distinction.

(Im a Googler, but that's not particularly relevant to this comment)

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xg157y ago

An "app" on Android is not a traditional executable. It's really a library and a collection of OS hooks that execute code from that library on various events.

The home screen icon is one of those hooks but by far not the only one. If I hide it or never press it, that implies exactly nothing about whether or not code from the app gets executed while I use the phone.

esrauch7y ago

I've never gone into the Bluetooth settings on my phone, that doesnt mean it's abusive that it was already there on my phone when I bought it.

jhasseOP7y ago

OEMs can change the Bluetooth settings though.

phobosdeimos7y ago

Same. The Android experience is being able to choose your own browser, media player, email app etcetera.

I know ecosystems make corporations a lot of money and some people prefer them. And they can choose an iPhone or Pixel.

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endorphone7y ago

Neat. So the OS allowed you to choose alternatives and to avoid Chrome wholly. So you're fully of the opinion that the EU argument has no merit then, right?

jhasseOP7y ago

It's the same argument as with Microsoft vs. the EU regarding IE: Defaults are important when you have a monopoly.

joshuamorton7y ago

(Im a Googler, but that's not particularly relevant to this comment)

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xg157y ago

An "app" on Android is not a traditional executable. It's really a library and a collection of OS hooks that execute code from that library on various events.

esrauch7y ago

I've never gone into the Bluetooth settings on my phone, that doesnt mean it's abusive that it was already there on my phone when I bought it.

jhasseOP7y ago

OEMs can change the Bluetooth settings though.

phobosdeimos7y ago

Same. The Android experience is being able to choose your own browser, media player, email app etcetera.

I know ecosystems make corporations a lot of money and some people prefer them. And they can choose an iPhone or Pixel.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse