Oops, I moved that to a sub-directory, and it's the same as the one you found. And I put up a copy of the Fabrik paper that Alan sent me. Also be sure to check out Chaim Gingold's Gadget Background Survey that he wrote at HARC in 2017, which is much more up-to-date and comprehensive!

http://www.donhopkins.com/home/documents/taxonomy.pdf

http://www.donhopkins.com/home/Fabrik%20PE%20paper.pdf

http://chaim.io/download/Gingold%20(2017)%20Gadget%20(1)%20S...

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On 20 May 2018, at 10:08, Alan Kay wrote:

Hi Don

I recall "swiped pie menus" being used at Apple in the mid-80s (ca 86) in the Fabrik visual language project. I'm pretty sure that the invention of this UI at Apple was done by Dan Ingalls. I've attached one of the Fabrik papers that mentions this idea.

You will probably want to include this in your retrospective history of the the idea.

Cheers

Alan

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From: Don Hopkins Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Ready to publish "Pie Menus: A 30 Year Retrospective"

Thank you! I remember hearing the name Fabrik mentioned somewhere, but never found much to read about it so I don’t know much about it.

I’ll read up on it and integrate it into my article!

https://medium.com/@donhopkins/pie-menus-936fed383ff1

I really enjoyed this paper “A Taxonomy of Simulation Software: A work in progress” from Learning Technology Review by Kurt Schmucker at Apple. It covered many of my favorite systems.

http://donhopkins.com/home/documents/taxonomy.pdf

It reminds me of the much more modern an comprehensive "Gadget Background Survey" that Chaim did at HARC, which includes your favorites Rockey’s Boots and Robot Odyssey, and his amazing SimCity Reverse Diagrams and lots of great stuff I’d never seen before:

http://chaim.io/download/Gingold%20(2017)%20Gadget%20(1)%20S...

I've also been greatly inspired by the systems described in the classic books “Visual Programming” by Nan C Shu, and “Watch What I Do: Programming by Demonstration” edited by Alan Cypher. Brad Myers wrote several articles in that about his stuff, like Peridot and Garnet (which I briefly worked on with him at CMU, and was very cool, but needed a bit more right brain graphic design if you know what I mean ;). To paraphrase Rumsfeld, "As you know, you go to screen with the graphics API you have, not the graphics API you might want or wish to have at a later time."

-Don