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0 pointskolpa8y ago0 comments

Wow. "core hours" is full time, but there's also mandatory overtime. Anyone not in the boss's timezone has to to work weird hours to satisfy the micromanager's desire for fiefdom face-time. Work starts before 9am every day, to prep for a 9am dressing-down.

This is not a place where anyone with a choice would want to work.

> * Each workday has a team standup meeting. We choose 9 a.m., because it sets the tone for the day.

> * The workday has core hours when we expect people to be together. We choose core hours 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. in our team's main time zone, because these are typical business hours for typical offices.

> * Beyond the workday core hours, we expect people to do their own schedule

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jph8y ago· 4 in thread

You make great points and I'll edit now to make it more clear that the goal of the ground rules is to be communicating, and the goal of the writeup is to show a bunch of examples gathered from many teams in many industries.

Can you refresh the repo page now and see if it is more helpful and clear? Thank you!

For example, the item about 9-5 core hours actually comes from a bank that has tellers, call center operators, and an IT staff that needs to be onsite and available for helping with physical hardware. Again, the point of the ground rules isn't the hours per se; the point is that the team writes its expectations so everyone has a good understanding.

humbleMouse8y ago

9-5 core hours is bullshit. The whole point of core hours is to be a window of time where you can guarantee a meeting can be scheduled with people across time zones. This doesn't mean you have 8 hours of core hours. That's literally insane.

seanmcdirmid8y ago

Not to mention you can’t adjust your hours at all to avoid rush hour or cooperate with a spouse in day care management. 9-5 is necessary for banks, but not for software developers. Having a few core hours is necessary, but if it’s 8, you can no longer call them “core”.

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dahart8y ago

It feels like you didn't even read the comment you replied to. FWIW, I've worked in a company where the whole point of core hours was to have a working set of people in the building at the same time, and wasn't related to time zones or even meetings.

icelancer8y ago

Agreed. When I run teams the core hours are typically 10 AM - 2 PM or some band of 4 hours around a key time.

gaius8y ago

We choose... We choose... we expect

That’s the royal “we” isn’t it?

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