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0 pointsArthanari8y ago0 comments

Any idea why they wont have any disease? Because they are not even a living entity. they are just a non living thing, like a stone or sand or plastic or shells in the ocean. Would humans be inclined to eat a non living thing? As a living being i think we should be eating other living beings, like a vegetable or organic salmon...

If we can easily believe that eating lab grown meat and real living natural food is same then why don't we believe fake news as real? They also sound real, they also have words, they also have websites they also appear to have likes...

This effort to make the boundary between nature and artificial disappear isn't it like making ourselves disappear, are we humans not natural beings?

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atonse8y ago

Ok I suppose I should add caveats, like I am assuming that this would be FDA approved and tested by a few independent sources before being put on grocery shelves.

Regarding your thoughts on whether it's a living thing, is purely philosophical. It sounds to me like you haven't actually seen what goes into these artificial meats. They extract cells from animals and feed them the nutrients they need (like amino acids) to cause the cells to divide and grow like they would in the animal's body.

So whether a muscle grew with a cow over years, or it grew in a lab, does that really matter?

Is an organ that's grown on a pig any less an organ than one grown in a human?

d0lph8y ago

I was thinking because they don't need to be exposed to farm conditions, with disease being able to transmit from animal to animal.

Because meat isn't true or untrue, it provides things your bodies need, things it doesn't need, or things that are harmful to it.

I'll be honest, I'm not totally on board, but I don't see any reason we shouldn't grow meat in a lab, and probably many benefits.

AnimalMuppet8y ago

But vats can still support bacteria colonies, just like cows can.

Ideally, they'd be sterilized between batches, in a way that left no residue on the product. In practice, though, I wonder if they won't need to use antibiotics (or something like them) in order to ensure a safe product.

The advantage will be that all those antibiotics don't run off into the soil... except for the plant's wastewater. Still, it ought to be more localized than the current practice.

drdeadringer8y ago

Reading your comments in this post, by now I must ask: what is your continued interest here? Are you honestly interested in "keep Humans natural" or similar? Are you in the meat industry?

AnimalMuppet8y ago

My daughter has significant food sensitivities. Certain foods cause dramatic behavioral changes. Dyes are a problem. Corn is a problem. Soybeans are a problem. Chemicals in the food are a problem. We've learned the hard way to be very careful about what she eats.

So I'm suspicious of "it's just the same". Yeah, it is, except for the traces of stuff where it's not. Those traces may not matter to most people. (Then again, they may - prions, anyone?) But to at least some people, the small differences really matter, not because of their taste buds or their feelings about their food, but because they legitimately react strongly to some things.

But you, why are you so eager to discredit someone whose viewpoint (I assume) differs from your own? Why are you so eager to ascribe bad faith or ulterior motives to someone?

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ArthanariOP8y ago

Are you in the lab grown meat industry?

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d0lph8y ago

I feel like they could keep everything totally sterilized. Hopefully with everything roboticised.

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atonse8y ago

Ok I suppose I should add caveats, like I am assuming that this would be FDA approved and tested by a few independent sources before being put on grocery shelves.

So whether a muscle grew with a cow over years, or it grew in a lab, does that really matter?

Is an organ that's grown on a pig any less an organ than one grown in a human?

d0lph8y ago

I was thinking because they don't need to be exposed to farm conditions, with disease being able to transmit from animal to animal.

Because meat isn't true or untrue, it provides things your bodies need, things it doesn't need, or things that are harmful to it.

I'll be honest, I'm not totally on board, but I don't see any reason we shouldn't grow meat in a lab, and probably many benefits.

AnimalMuppet8y ago

But vats can still support bacteria colonies, just like cows can.

The advantage will be that all those antibiotics don't run off into the soil... except for the plant's wastewater. Still, it ought to be more localized than the current practice.

drdeadringer8y ago

Reading your comments in this post, by now I must ask: what is your continued interest here? Are you honestly interested in "keep Humans natural" or similar? Are you in the meat industry?

AnimalMuppet8y ago

But you, why are you so eager to discredit someone whose viewpoint (I assume) differs from your own? Why are you so eager to ascribe bad faith or ulterior motives to someone?

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ArthanariOP8y ago

Are you in the lab grown meat industry?

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d0lph8y ago

I feel like they could keep everything totally sterilized. Hopefully with everything roboticised.

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