I'm only 10 minutes or so into it, but this is a quote (not exact, but close enough) from Jordan Peterson:

"(music and cathedrals) are ways of trying to symbolically represent how things could be if they were put in the proper state of balance or harmony"

What does that even mean? The only concrete nugget of knowledge I can get from that is that cathedrals are designed in a relatively balanced manner. Symmetrical, I guess.

I plan to listen to the rest of this interview but that statement was a particularly good example of the hand-waavy nonsense that I was talking about so I decided to record it here so I didn't forget.