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0 pointsBromskloss8y ago0 comments

> is elitist

I know I'm supposed to think that that is bad, but I can't come up with why it would be.

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It really depends on some pretty subjective values held on faith, that position, power, and profit ought to be shared.

Or, as seems more accurate in this example, subjective belief that anyone should get arbitrary amount of praise for just showing up, instead of having to earn it through the process of honing and applying their skills.

chrstphrhrt8y ago

In my experience the innovators must toil in obscurity because they see a vision that others cannot yet see, until the thing is realized.

Then the prototypes get handed off to the main engineers to run with, and support is provided. By the time the thing sees production usage, the original inventor has long since moved onto solving other problems on the horizon.

Praise is attributed to the last and loudest to have touched a project. Innovators are deeply satisfied by that and don't need the praise because it actually gets in the way.

threatofrain8y ago

Presumably, though, in the hypothetical presented in the thread, the "top" 10% wouldn't be people who just showed up? And the "plumbers" are the ones who cannot build on their own?

The question is why elitism is wrong. Your statements rest on whether that perception of elite status is wrong. Well, if that is ever resolved, is elitism wrong or not? Ought power, profit, and position be shared?

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threatofrain8y ago

It really depends on some pretty subjective values held on faith, that position, power, and profit ought to be shared.

TeMPOraL8y ago

chrstphrhrt8y ago

In my experience the innovators must toil in obscurity because they see a vision that others cannot yet see, until the thing is realized.

Praise is attributed to the last and loudest to have touched a project. Innovators are deeply satisfied by that and don't need the praise because it actually gets in the way.

threatofrain8y ago

Presumably, though, in the hypothetical presented in the thread, the "top" 10% wouldn't be people who just showed up? And the "plumbers" are the ones who cannot build on their own?

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