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0 pointssolarkraft8y ago0 comments

Plus: What about a history? Do I really have to have my client running to not miss stuff? That may have technical reasons, but is inconvenient.

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zzzcpan8y ago

IRC solves these problems via things like bots and bouncers. Although running always connected irssi client [1] in a screen [2] on a server is probably the easiest way to achieve it.

[1] https://irssi.org/

[2] https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/

derefr8y ago

IRC doesn't solve those problems; individual users solve those problems on top of IRC (and usually not very well.)

A proper open-ecosystem solution would involve network-level history-storage-and-retrieval nodes (basically archival peers in the IRC protocol), and additions to the protocol to direct archive-access queries to those nodes.

deckard18y ago

> A proper open-ecosystem solution

Not sure what you mean by "open ecosystem solution." IRC is literally just a few RFCs, a variety of server software, and a variety of client software. It's as extendable as you need it, and most networks have their own extensions already. Is that not open enough for you?

> IRC doesn't solve those problems; individual users solve those problems

As opposed to...? AI solving them? Do we need a corporation to hold our hand while we solve these issues? I'm not following what you're objecting to here. You're free to write and propose your own RFCs and extend IRC however you wish.

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rspeer8y ago

And other platforms solve this problem by having history as a built-in feature, which apparently IRC can never get due to inertia.

kqr8y ago

IRC is not a service. It's a protocol. There are services built on IRC mentioned in this thread which have history as a built-in feature.

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zzzcpan8y ago

IRC solves these problems via things like bots and bouncers. Although running always connected irssi client [1] in a screen [2] on a server is probably the easiest way to achieve it.

[1] https://irssi.org/

[2] https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/

derefr8y ago

IRC doesn't solve those problems; individual users solve those problems on top of IRC (and usually not very well.)

deckard18y ago

> A proper open-ecosystem solution

> IRC doesn't solve those problems; individual users solve those problems

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rspeer8y ago

And other platforms solve this problem by having history as a built-in feature, which apparently IRC can never get due to inertia.

kqr8y ago

IRC is not a service. It's a protocol. There are services built on IRC mentioned in this thread which have history as a built-in feature.

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