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0 pointsryanlol8y ago0 comments

>a country that is mostly involved in their own shit and area

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War

By using telegram you are directly supporting the Kremlin.

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herbst8y ago· 4 in thread

You realize there is a difference between reclaiming land and claiming or fighting wars in foreign land.

Not that i think any of both is right. But only one directly changes _my_ life.

ryanlolOP8y ago

Ah, so Signal devs are aligned with the US government in the same manner that the Durovs are working for the Russian government?

See, for me it makes sense to link Telegram to Kremlin, as it's very obviously ran by Putins buddies.

If Signal devs are in a similar situation, it's certainly not nearly as obvious as with Telegram.

fwdpropaganda8y ago

> See, for me it makes sense to link Telegram to Kremlin, as it's very obviously ran by Putins buddies.

Do you have any reason to believe this, other than the guy's nationality?

Durov was the founder of VK (Russia's version of Facebook). He was approached by the Krelim and "forced" to sell his stake (nice social network you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it)

https://www.theverge.com/2014/1/31/5363990/how-putins-cronie...

I would imagine if there's someone who hates the Kremlin, it's Durov.

So I'll ask again, do you have any evidence to support your claim? Because if it all hinges on his nationality you're sounding a bit biggoted.

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herbst8y ago

Its a day later but i did some reading.

Essentially:

> By using Facebook/Whatsapp you are directly supporting the U.S.

is just as valid isnt it? Because you know Zuck has been to the White House and has followed requests by U.S. gov agencies.

Thats my whole point. If you have to choose between 2 evils, you choose that that is less threatening to yourself.

PS: I dont compare with Signal as they have neither spread nor common features.

konart8y ago

>See, for me it makes sense to link Telegram to Kremlin, as it's very obviously ran by Putins buddies.

Pavel literally fled the country and bought himself a different citizenship only to be best Putin buddy, yeah.

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