undefined | Better HN

0 pointscreaghpatr8y ago0 comments

Yeah but most other nations receive hundreds of millions of dollars and it's mostly africa and middle eastern countries. US is planning to spend 1.3 trillion in Israel in FY18, although I imagine most of that is military.

No denying Israel is a leader in innovation because they absolutely are, but the headline seems to imply that they unseated the US, which is kind of misleading.

https://www.foreignassistance.gov/explore

0 comments

fishcolorbrick8y ago

>US is planning to spend 1.3 trillion in Israel in FY18

That isn't what your source says... where'd you get that number?

[0]: https://www.foreignassistance.gov/explore/country/Israel

creaghpatrOP8y ago

On the homepage when you hover over, but say it's $3.1B (the number doesn't really matter because it's impossible to gauge how much goes to military spending)

>U.S. assistance helps ensure that Israel maintains its Qualitative Military Edge (QME) over potential regional threats, preventing a shift in the security balance of the region and safeguarding U.S. interests.

My argument here is that the US is outsourcing innovation to countries like Israel rather than investing in it domestically. This likely serves to kill 2 birds with one stone but it makes it weird to index the 2 countries against each other.

Adverblessly8y ago

> "it's impossible to gauge how much goes to military spending"

It is easy to gauge how much goes to military spending. Practically all of it if we go by previous years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_aid_to_Israel.gif

And of that military spending, IIRC >=50% is only allowed to be spent on purchasing from US companies (i.e. driving US military innovation) and IIUC from 2019 onwards that percentage will go up to 100%, so it will primarily drive US military innovation (and at the same time discourage Israeli military innovation, since the Israeli government will be less likely to spend money on local military products)

fishcolorbrick8y ago

The difference between 3.1B and 1300B dollars is significant and it is bizarre that you cite a source and then say "the number doesn't really matter". The number definitely does matter...

The number you initially claimed in spite of your own source contravening it would support your argument... if one was moving 1300B from a 18620B economy to a 317B economy... that is to say, providing support equal to 400% of the recipient's GDP, that would be significant.

The actual numbers given in the source you provided are insignificant and don't support your argument.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

0 comments

fishcolorbrick8y ago

>US is planning to spend 1.3 trillion in Israel in FY18

That isn't what your source says... where'd you get that number?

[0]: https://www.foreignassistance.gov/explore/country/Israel

creaghpatrOP8y ago

On the homepage when you hover over, but say it's $3.1B (the number doesn't really matter because it's impossible to gauge how much goes to military spending)

Adverblessly8y ago

> "it's impossible to gauge how much goes to military spending"

It is easy to gauge how much goes to military spending. Practically all of it if we go by previous years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_aid_to_Israel.gif

fishcolorbrick8y ago

The difference between 3.1B and 1300B dollars is significant and it is bizarre that you cite a source and then say "the number doesn't really matter". The number definitely does matter...

The actual numbers given in the source you provided are insignificant and don't support your argument.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse