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(wistia.com)

28 pointsmjpizz15y ago15 comments

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Sounds like a terrible idea to me. You're using your most precious (and expensive) human resources to do a task that doesn't require them. Part of the function of ITIL practices in the support team (assuming you're large enough to have a support team) is to notice trends in help desk calls and feature requests, condense that information, and present it to the development team in an organized, coherent manner. If that's not enough to keep your developers grounded in reality, send some of them on site visits once in a while to observe real users trying to do real work with your software.

callmeed15y ago

"All hands support" (provided by engineers) is cool and all, but ONLY IF your product/service is targeted at other engineers or highly technical users (like Wistia and New Relic).

Support for B2C or B2[Brick and Mortar]B services is a different animal, IMO, and one that many startups don't get.

jeffclark15y ago

Seriously. If you're not dealing with another engineer/developer/tech-y, you should reconsider having your engineers interact with the public.

Actual entire response from one of our (very smart, social and senior) engineers recently to a customer who couldn't login:

"Hi (customer): I can't recognize the web browser you are using! Can you possibly try to login with one of our supported browsers and let me know if you still have a problem? -(engineer)"

Sure, it's exactly what he needs to know to start fixing the issue, but there's no chance the customer (a florist) is going to know how to respond to that. We're just wired differently.

mjpizzOP15y ago

great illustrative story. But couldn't this be more a matter of learning good customer service skills, not a matter of intrinsically being "wired differently" as an engineer vs. non-engineer?

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brendan15y ago

The vast majority of our customers are far from tech savvy. In fact, on the rare occasion where we suggest getting a customer's IT department involved (say, for an email deliverability issue), they often beg us not to -- "IT is too slow, never solves our problems, will want to build their own version of Wistia, etc." I'm always surprised when I hear this, but I guess it means we're doing a good job with the product and support!

mjpizzOP15y ago

interesting point..maybe it's just that the support is best provided by the employees with the "most domain knowledge on product"? In technical startups, these employees happen to be engineers. But in other startups, take for example AirBnB, the most knowledgeable employees might be the ones who have traveled the most.

IMHO, B2C still has some applicability here. It is still beneficial to rotate support among the employees responsible for the final customer-facing product...whether that product is technical or not. Taking a support day periodically to experience your customers' problems firsthand becomes a great way to internalize their most important pain points and desires, so that you can effectively prioritize new products and feature development. Spending quality time with customers can give you a ton of insight into the "whys" and "hows" of what makes them happy :)

johngalt15y ago

Sounds great when you're small, but "All-Hands Support" self-destructs when you try to scale it.

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callmeed15y ago

"All hands support" (provided by engineers) is cool and all, but ONLY IF your product/service is targeted at other engineers or highly technical users (like Wistia and New Relic).

Support for B2C or B2[Brick and Mortar]B services is a different animal, IMO, and one that many startups don't get.

jeffclark15y ago

Seriously. If you're not dealing with another engineer/developer/tech-y, you should reconsider having your engineers interact with the public.

Actual entire response from one of our (very smart, social and senior) engineers recently to a customer who couldn't login:

"Hi (customer): I can't recognize the web browser you are using! Can you possibly try to login with one of our supported browsers and let me know if you still have a problem? -(engineer)"

Sure, it's exactly what he needs to know to start fixing the issue, but there's no chance the customer (a florist) is going to know how to respond to that. We're just wired differently.

mjpizzOP15y ago

great illustrative story. But couldn't this be more a matter of learning good customer service skills, not a matter of intrinsically being "wired differently" as an engineer vs. non-engineer?

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brendan15y ago

mjpizzOP15y ago

johngalt15y ago

Sounds great when you're small, but "All-Hands Support" self-destructs when you try to scale it.

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