But recently I've become convinced that BLM was right, and the thing that changed my mind was the story of Daniel Shaver. Google it and watch the video if you haven't seen it yet -- it might change your mind, too.
He wasn't armed, hadn't committed a crime earlier that day, didn't disrespect the officers, complied with police orders, and had the same skin color as the policeman who shot him. And they executed him anyway.
A jury then acquitted his killer of all charges.
I don't know what to think anymore.
Trayvon was killed during a time when I was extremely politically conservative, but later that year I actively participated in a Republican campaign in Florida. That moment is when I really started to criticize my own political and religious beliefs.
Since then, mostly thanks to moving away from my parents and heading to university, I've continued to drift away from my old viewpoints. I can't say I am 100% onboard with every position BLM has advocated but the same story told year after year has started to change my mind.
And this case has a shock factor for a white man that the others did not. I'm ashamed to admit that. It's an uncomfortable way to be woken up to one's own biases. I hope it's not too late to help change things for both black and white Americans. And I hope it's not too late to fix my own thinking.
I'm not even from the US, but these worrisome trends have been obvious for quite a while now, in many different ways. Like the mere existence of crowdsourced maps of police killing family pets [4] and something like "swatting people" actually being a thing, which is reserved in its severity pretty much to the US [5].
Note: I'm not trying to paint a super bleak picture of "all US police are evil", I just think there's a very real problem there. A problem that seems to be mostly driven by a culture of "War", like on drugs and on terror.
[0] http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/07/justice/north-carolina-tee...
[1] https://priceonomics.com/how-police-officers-seize-cash-from...
[2] https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-po...
[3] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/homan-square...
[5] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/robert-mcdaid...
I wouldn't really say that there's institutionalized conspiracy against blacks and that everyone is shooting them for no reason. There are obvious instances that individual police officers acted cruel but I wouldn't pin those instances as proof of a system wide corruption and conspiracy against blacks.
BLM is definitely not right.
Was it avoidable? Definitely. It's a tragedy and not necessary.
In most other civilized countries the police would have handled this much more maturely and with better training.
Your characterization of the cop just proves my point. It is not the system wide conspiracy to kill, it's that people who want to kill and are sadistic control freaks love being cops?
So these are all particular instances and not an indication of system wide statistically significant killing spree.
If they want to fight police brutality, great, but then why are they called BLM? If they want to save the lives of black people, they're doing a disservice by acting as if police brutality is the area to focus on.
Relevant here is that the police, with effectively the tacit approval of the public at large, have created an alternate criminal justice pipeline. One where punishment is not merely meted out at the end of a fair trial, but rather one where every aspect of the system itself is a punishment. Even in the best case scenarios being arrested and detained is a traumatic experience. Indeed, the police have often used just this alone, with or without any charges, as a means to punish. In more common worse case scenarios the police use brutal force and the most extreme dehumanizing and degrading methods of bringing someone into custody. You will be injured, you will be humiliated, you will be reduced to inconsequentiality within the meat grinder of the criminal justice system. It's designed to wear people down, to reduce their resistance, to serve as a punishment all on its own.
And in the very most extreme examples the system extends this system of impromptu extra judicial justice dispensed by police officers to street executions. Failing to comply with police (regardless of the details) is a capital offense that can result in immediate summary execution. Running away from the police (regardless of the details) can be met with immediate summary execution. Talking back to the police can potentially result in immediate summary execution. Being a person of a body type or an ethnicity that causes a police officer to fear for their life can result in immediate summary execution. And for every example of a police officer being fired or, rarer still, brought to justice for these heinous acts there are countless more of police officers experiencing no consequences. For every objectively unjust street execution where the police kill someone "innocent" there are many more where the police unjustly execute a "bad guy" (rapist, thief, what-have-you) in a way that is much harder to prove as objectively unjust.
And that's the core of the problem. The police are out on the street and they have tremendous power in their hands these days. The power to dispense "justice" through their own volition on the spur of the moment, even including executions. So the police spend a lot of time working on how to systematically categorize people on the street into the "good guy" or "bad guy" buckets. They don't have the luxury of letting the justice system figure it out, they are the justice system. Worse, they revel in it. Once the "bad guy" bit is flipped, everything is on the table, including summary street execution. For people with power fantasies this is a gold mine. And they've been living it out for years, decades. The system today is designed to encourage, coddle, and facilitate officers who act this way. If you are rough with the "bad guys" you're a hero. If you are aggressive on the street you will make your quotas. And so on.
Today in the America of 2017 it is very difficult to argue with the fact that we live in a police state. It's a hard truth to swallow but every indication is that it's the case. The vast majority of executions (by maybe 10-20:1, statistics aren't even collected) happen extra-judicially by police, on the street. One third of all Americans killed by strangers are killed by police. One third. Legally, civilians have the right to resist unlawful police orders, even up to and including using lethal force against the police if necessary. As a practical matter however, that's a fiction, on the street civilians have no rights, you can be executed for the slightest infraction if you are unfortunate enough to come into conflict with the police in the wrong circumstances.
P.S. Consider how much the popular culture has bought into this conception of the police. Look at the lionization of the "rogue cop" working outside the rules but doing what's right to take down the bad guys (Dirty Harry, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard). Look at the acceptance of allowing the law or norms of human decency to be bent or broken. From Jack Bauer to Batman our "heroes" are willing and able to use torture to extract information from the "villains", and we applaud them for it. All of this is just tacitly accepted by society without even the blink of an eye, we don't think "oh, but Jack Bauer isn't REALLY a good guy if he uses torture", we barely even care. And all of this absolutely does filter in to how the police are allowed to operate within society.
I feel pretty safe on the streets here and in general have high respect for the police force, something that I did not have in Canada (RCMP excepted, they're very good) or in the United States.
You must be a white male. Minorities have known America was a police state since conception.
Most of the police I interacted with were good guys. I got pulled over twice - the scottsdale officer bounced over & told me why he'd pulled me over (instead of asking for a confession). The sheriff asked for a confession ("Do you know why I pulled you over?", "I have some ideas..."), but decided I didn't need a ticket for missing that stop sign and gave me a written warning.
A retired cop I know was telling a cop story which included him telling someone "I don't make the rules I just enforce them." I've realized this is probably the origin of the term 'cop out'.
These diaries are two of my recent efforts to better define the tension between police and the public:
America's Make-Work Sheriff: The Anachronism of Joseph Arpaio - http://www.taxiwars.org/2017/09/americas-make-work-sheriff-a...
Ordinary Rendition: The Public Servants' Quagmire - http://www.taxiwars.org/2017/10/ordinary-rendition-public-se...
'Advice from a cop' was one of my earliest diaries at kuro5hin.org (RIP) - http://www.taxiwars.org/2012/04/15-sprinter-addict-advice-fr... - "Officer Steel" (I guess) really put the police's job in perspective for me.
Really the politicians need to be held accountable for screwing up the police's job - institutionalized racism was replaced with an unwinnable 'war on drugs'. I learned about 'mens rea' (guilty mind) and 'strict liability' ("crimes" where no victim is required) from some HN comments (thanks, whoever that was):
> Mens rea (/ˈmɛnz ˈriːə/; Law Latin for "guilty mind"[1][2][3]) is the mental element of 1) intention to commit a crime or 2) knowledge that one's action or lack of action would cause a crime to be committed. It is a necessary element of many crimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea
> A regulatory offence or quasi-criminal offence is a class of crime in which the standard for proving culpability has been lowered so a mens rea (Latin for "guilty mind") element is not required. Such offences are used to deter potential offenders from dangerous behaviour rather than to impose punishment for moral wrongdoing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_liability_crime
In addition to the cold statistics provided by the Vice story above, check out this counter “anecdote”:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2...
Warning: this might be the most disturbing video I’ve ever seen - an execution of an unarmed man by police.
Where in the (western) world would this be without consequences for the involved officers?
Isn’t it to serve and protect?
Coming from Austria where we have to extensively learn about the mechanics of fascism in school I can only tell my American friends:
Wake up before it’s too late.
I'm just trying to break through people's echo chambers, and help get to the core of the issue. I agreed with most of what the poster I replied to said, but wanted to point out that not all police are trigger-happy. I think any reform to policing in the United States has to help make non-trigger happy police officers' lives easier. The only way to do this is by ending the drug war.
Actually there was quite a lot of talk at the time about this.
Some places to start: http://mediaviolence.org/media-video-violence-addiction-rese...
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Politics-Voices/2014/...
Edit: puzzled by the apparent disagreement here?
One of these states of affairs must prevail for the US, from most to least likely (and least to most desirable): (1) it continues to lose more of its people than any comparable wealthy nation to violence, (2) it hugely reduces the amount of ready-to-hand weaponry (on one side or both), or (3) it diminishes its love affair with violence. The last can nearly be discounted, as it is by now too deeply embedded in the US's economy, history, culture and ideology. (2) seems like a distant prospect for similar reasons. (1) would be a safe bet.
Einstein said No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. The odds are good that the current framing of the problem is part of the problem.
That caveat aside, I suspect you're right: America is stuck, and getting unstuck will need a novel stimulus of some sort. As to what that might be and where it will lead? Not necessarily 'upwards'.
We are misfits and mavericks and we are coping with an ugly racial legacy that is quite challenging to fully resolve. And maybe part of the answer lies in the current calls for reparations to African Americans. Maybe that will both make Blacks less angry and Whites less likely to feel that Black anger is unjustified, thus ill behaved.
Jane Jacobs wrote that eyes on the street is the key to safety. Fostering a safe and civilized climate means working on ideas like that. Confining these discussions to what should happen at the point where a cop has pulled a gun is pretty much guaranteed to fail to solve it.
* http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_history_of_american_s...
In france they would not. They would not hold their own gun either in that situation.
This situation only exists because it is possible that this guys has a gun in america.
It's even frightening that somebody as smart as you didn't see this elephant in the room. The cultural bubble is strong here, and given the influence of your country, it really makes me uneasy.
But then right below that they give a graphic which covers the same period and breaks the shootings down into fatal (1378), nonfatal (2720), and unknown (283). That's a total of 4381, or 750 more than the number give in the paragraph above the graphic.
Also, note that they say their data is for the 50 largest departments. They say 1378 fatal shootings for 2010 through 2016. Add in the 283 unknown shootings because they might have also been fatal, and that gives 1661 fatal shootings.
It's interesting to compare to the data from killedbypolice.net. KBP data starts 2013-05-01, and here are the fatal shooting counts by year:
2013: 779
2014: 1114
2015: 1220
2016: 1165
That comes to 4278 in 43 months, or 99.5/month. Compare to Vice's 1661 in 84 months, or 19.8/month.Vice says their data covers about 148k police officers serving 54 million Americans. That's about 1/5th of all police officers [1], so it looks like the ratio of fatal shootings per month from all departments to those from the 50 largest departments is about the same as the ratio of number of offices to number of office in the 50 largest departments. That suggests there isn't much difference between large departments and small departments.
[1] Based on numbers I Googled, although I was only able to find 2008 numbers.
I've known several cops, they are without exception good people who would never harm someone intentionally. (I do believe there are a few bad ones, but I've never met them.)
I can't wait for this issue to become de-politicized again. Cops are totally undercompensated, under appreciated and deserve much better than this.