Ask HN: Is there a Y Combinator equivalent in Australia?

The most determined Australian founders are leaving Australia to try and make it on the world stage, so any Australian-based version would be limited to startups that are less determined, or whose ideas are Australia-focused, which by definition would be smaller in scale and ambition.

@Bootload is right to point out Pollenizer - Mick and the crew are doing great things to help develop Australia-focused startups, though the type of investment and support they provide is quite different to YC.

Your best bet is to find the startup community in your city and start interacting with them and sharing your ideas and experiences. The Silicon Beach mailing list and weekly meetups in Sydney and Melbourne are the best way to find fellow founders. The Hive events are also great, though less tech-focused. They started in Melbourne and now happen in Brisbane and Sydney, each month. We also run Hackernews meetups in Melbourne a couple of times a year. Follow @ycmelb on Twitter or stay tuned to HN for announcements.

Ultimately, rather than hoping for a YC-copy in your local area, your best bet is to develop yourself to a point where you can get funded by the real YC.

The closest I can identify is at Mick Liubinskas at Pollinizer ~ http://www.pollenizer.com/pollenizer-investing-in-web-startu... & http://twitter.com/pollenizer

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1) What's stopping you from moving to the US?

If you wanted to, you could be here on an effectively permanent basis in a matter of weeks (we have an unfair advantage in the form of the E3 visa, a version of the H1B for Australians). Get in touch if you'd like to chat about this.

2) Are you making the most of a community which isn't formalised/mature enough to support a YC equivalent?

There are some real kickass entrepreneurs in Sydney, who I'd say are more approachable and helpful than their equivalents in cities with a more mature startup community. Get in touch for some names, or just show up to Silicon Beach drinks and talk to as many people as you can.

To understand my answer, you really need to understand the value that YC gives you. The money is one thing, but it's really not that much -- I don't think you should be doing YC if the money is your primary objective. What has been amazing for me is the access to people who have, it is no understatement to say, changed the world. Getting office hours with PG is massively helpful -- it's saved us a bunch of time when we've been worried about something to just head into YC's offices and have a candid discussion about it with Paul, and he has a particular talent for focusing startups energy in the right direction (users and cheques!).

The big part of this that will be especially hard to replicate in Australia is the introductions to all these people -- fundamentally, those people live in Silicon Valley, and there's not much you can do to change that.

My last comment here is that I don't think Australia (well, Sydney in particular, that's where I'm from) has the same kind of acceptance of entrepreneurs that we have here in the Valley. It's pretty weird to go to a party and not run into someone else who is starting a company over here, but entirely the opposite is true in Sydney -- everyone who could start a company takes an ok job and enjoys the lifestyle. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but you don't get the same exposure to the startup lifestyle in Sydney, and it's a big mental barrier to get over.

I hope I'm wrong, and I'd love for it to change, because I do think there's some real talent in Australia that could be doing great things (and frankly I miss the beaches!). But making that happen is going to be a lot harder than just throwing some cash around.

The short answer is there isn't really an equivalent, although I think I speak for many expat Aussies in saying we wish there were!

There are certainly many entrepreneurs in Sydney - check out some of the local meetups like http://www.meetup.com/open-coffee-sydney/ or contact people like Mick Liubinskas and Bart Jellema.

However as James said, the incredible wealth of talent, opportunity, and funding available in Silicon Valley has to be seen to be believed. Without such a context, I think it will be hard to develop such a seed funding model.

The debate about why Australians need to come to the Valley to start companies has been raging for decades - see commentary on Atlassian's most recent round of funding as a classic example.

I think it notable that YC's specific value proposition especially makes sense in a climate where later stages of funding are plentiful. I have no quantitative data to back this up, but it appears sensible to assume that the volume of deal flow (in $M terms) raised in Australia for tech startups would need to be massively higher before a seed investment funnel model would make sense.

Finally, go for it! If not now and you, then when and who? :-)

To answer some questions such as to why can't I go to the USA. I've got a 7 month old son these days, so the international thing is a bit impractical at the moment. Plus I think there are some great opportunities to be exploited domestically, which obviously isn't taking on the world but I see a lot of opportunity to build good local businesses in Australia.

Jamessg, I agree it's not so much the money, but the access to people that have experience and have done it all before to provide that important guidance and save $ from being wasted on the learning curve.

Anyway thanks again to everyone, really appreciate your help, and hope to meet up with some of you in person soon.