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I think there's some misunderstanding in your comment about how Wayland works. 99.9% of Wayland desktops out there [1] do not use Weston. Weston is not Wayland's display server, it's a reference implementation of a window manager implementing the Wayland protocol(s). There is no separation between display server and window manager in Wayland, only a single master process, the compositor, which fulfils (roughly) both these roles. So if you're running, say, KDE Plasma, then your compositor is KWin, and Weston is nowhere to be seen. If you're running Sway, then your compositor is Sway. And so on. Wayland is only a protocol, not a piece of software (unless you count the shared libraries provided by the Wayland project).

[1] Guesstimate.

From "Seven Laws of Sane Personal Computing":

I – Obeys operator

The operator shall retain full control of the machine at all times. In particular, the handling of the keyboard, mouse, and other human interface devices must take absolute priority over all other processing. The operator shall have the ability to issue commands and receive immediate confirmation of said commands at all times, regardless of system load.

http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284

> So X was horrible

Was it?

I feel like someday someone is going to say something like "Man our VR world syncing protocol is really heavy, and we end up needing AGI-level LOD prediction to do it well, but compressing 360 degree light fields is wasteful and leads to latency artifacts... what if there was a protocol that allowed realities to render display-space fields directly to remote devices, but do the final compositing on the client?" and then someone will discover the X protocol, re-implement it with 3D SDFs instead of 2D rectangles, and all of the sudden X will be the new hot thing.

Canonical will use Mir on other platforms, I am thinking like the screens that show advertising in Malls or touchscreens that display info and you can interact. from what I read Canonical does not intend to change GNOME too much , only fix the major complains, if they wanted a better system from the code molecularity point of view they had the chance 2 times to use KDE as a base.

No, Weston is pretty much the reference compositor for Wayland.

Yes

Systemd is one of these things that brings many improvements... and gets talked down.

If it was at least criticized constructively, but no, it is something else than the "traditional" init, so let's just berate it.

And then we wonder, why the Linux desktop is always out of reach, when we dismiss anything, that helps to drag Linux out of the maze of one-off bash and perl scripts.

Wayland is a protocol, Mir will use this protocol, I think you are not uptodate with what is happening here.

If I understand correctly, they'll drop the server part replacing it with Wayland. But they'll keep their compositor, which any Wayland based DE needs to implement anyway. They don't intended it for the desktop, since they are dropping Unity. It's for IoT and etc.