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0 pointsdekrg8y ago0 comments

If you need another basket to have access to it (even if only initially) then it's not really a separate basket on a national level.

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vertex-four8y ago· 3 in thread

So what's your actual threat model here? The Government decides to ban people from accessing Government services? Err... Or that some person might not be able to activate their Mobile ID for a short period of time while they sort out their ID cards?

dekrgOP8y ago

The threat model is exactly people getting locked out of government services. If this seems silly or not important to you then you aren't aware just how widespread the usage of digital government services are in Estonia.

As one example most government procurements over a certain amount od money happen as e-procurements with strict time limits that can't be changed and bids need to be digitally signed. If you can't access digital government services you can neither access e-procurment site nor digitally sign you bid.

vertex-four8y ago

Right, but point is, you can quite easily have Mobile-ID and your ID card, and if something happens to your ID card you can still use Mobile-ID. I think.

If there's no redundancy measure for the ID card system failing - for example, automatically extending deadlines - that's a problem, and an easily solvable one at that, since it's mostly policy. It's not something against the ID card system.

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walshemj8y ago

If you cant get your benefits you might not be be able to eat or heat your home hospitals might not be able to look up patients records etc

dullgiulio8y ago

Just like you need a valid e-mail to sign up somewhere. Except that here you won't need it afterwards (even if your ID is compromised, it can be blocked and the other systems provide secure identity.)

All of this is backed by the "single basket" of people actually showing up in the population registry office...

PS: I see, you have just joined HN to write these unsubstantiated comments.

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