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0 pointsbrian-armstrong8y ago0 comments

I'm always a little shocked when people admit outrage over kneeling players but don't seem at all concerned that the sport endangers the players' wellbeing. What do you think contributes to this empathy gap?

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praneshp8y ago

IMO, Money. People see kneeling as overpaid players throwing tantrums. They see the brain issues as the risk they take for being paid a lot.

disease8y ago

In the case of many, many people I have met in the Midwest: the answer is racism. These people for some reason can't seem to grasp the simple fact that players are protesting the fact that black people are being shot and killed for either petty crimes or no crimes at all. You certainly don't have to agree with their protest, but not being able to empathize reflects much poorly on you than it does them.

ZoeZoeBee8y ago

Here we have a glaring example of the issue. You use feelings instead of data to make your point, the problem is your anecdotal assertions are not backed up by reality. 90% of those killed by police were armed.

So far this year 15 African Americans have been killed while unarmed to 21 White Americans and the numbers are similar for the previous years where data is available

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shoo...

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It is about Ratios WillyOnWheels except police aren't killing a bunch of people for no apparent reason, so ratios will never be one to one based on racial data alone.

More than 90% of police homicide victims were armed, the vast majority of them were during the commission of a crime.

Do we want to go over violent crime stats and how that relates to the likelihood you will be killed by police.

It is your half-assed attempt to apply normative statistics to a non-normative issue that shines a light upon your ignorance and all who parrot the same statement without ever delving into the data

Of course the numbers are irrefutable, so down vote away

WillyOnWheels8y ago

It's about ratios.

There are about 220 million White Americans. Your data claims 392 White Americans have been killed police in 2017 so far.

There are about 35 million Black Americans. Your data claims 190 Black Americans have been killed by police in 2017 so far.

If Black Americans were killed by police hypothetically at the same rate as White Americans, 62 Black Americans would be dead.

Do you see the huge disparity there?

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Feniks8y ago

Empathy is a privilege of the wealthy. NFL is primarily consumed by people working three shifts desperately struggling to keep their life together.

I cannot fault people on the bottom not being particularly concerned about someone making millions. As a matter of fact lots of NFL players see their sport as a way out of the trailer park. Do you think the NFL players are stupid?

Let us have some empathy for the people who live in the underclass of society.

ZoeZoeBee8y ago

It might have something to do with the fact that only 6% of Police Shootings involved an unarmed individual, and every year more white people are killed by police than African Americans. People would be more empathetic to the players supposed grievance if statistics backed them up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shoo...

brian-armstrongOP8y ago

This doesn't actually address my question. Kneeling, right or wrong, is a small expression of speech. CTEs endanger all players. The priorities here should be apparent.

JuanaMango8y ago

But the players aren't kneeling for CTE, they're kneeling for a supposed grievance which is not reflected in statistical reality. I don't think anyone understands your question, it's more like an uniformed statement with a question mark at the end

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praneshp8y ago

IMO, Money. People see kneeling as overpaid players throwing tantrums. They see the brain issues as the risk they take for being paid a lot.

disease8y ago

ZoeZoeBee8y ago

So far this year 15 African Americans have been killed while unarmed to 21 White Americans and the numbers are similar for the previous years where data is available

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shoo...

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It is about Ratios WillyOnWheels except police aren't killing a bunch of people for no apparent reason, so ratios will never be one to one based on racial data alone.

More than 90% of police homicide victims were armed, the vast majority of them were during the commission of a crime.

Do we want to go over violent crime stats and how that relates to the likelihood you will be killed by police.

It is your half-assed attempt to apply normative statistics to a non-normative issue that shines a light upon your ignorance and all who parrot the same statement without ever delving into the data

Of course the numbers are irrefutable, so down vote away

WillyOnWheels8y ago

It's about ratios.

There are about 220 million White Americans. Your data claims 392 White Americans have been killed police in 2017 so far.

There are about 35 million Black Americans. Your data claims 190 Black Americans have been killed by police in 2017 so far.

If Black Americans were killed by police hypothetically at the same rate as White Americans, 62 Black Americans would be dead.

Do you see the huge disparity there?

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Feniks8y ago

Empathy is a privilege of the wealthy. NFL is primarily consumed by people working three shifts desperately struggling to keep their life together.

Let us have some empathy for the people who live in the underclass of society.

ZoeZoeBee8y ago

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shoo...

brian-armstrongOP8y ago

This doesn't actually address my question. Kneeling, right or wrong, is a small expression of speech. CTEs endanger all players. The priorities here should be apparent.

JuanaMango8y ago

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