Sure. TouchID can't be used if your fingers are wet or wrinkly. Since I found out about FaceID I've noticed a bunch of scenarios where TouchID falls short and I have to drastically change how I'm using the phone or what I'm doing to accomodate unlocking using a specific finger.

> Because one can use TouchID for Apple Pay much quicker and more reliably in a crowded/rushed situation such as paying for public transport.

Since moving to the UK I was keen to give Apple Pay a try on the tube and I was disgusted at how slow it is. I think mobile-based contactless options are always going to be slower than passive card-based contactless.

There are edge use cases, I think 99% of the time your interaction will have less friction and more security.

For the edge cases generally a pass code will work (under the table / multiple users). I'm not sure what you do with your phone unlocked in your pocket...

TouchID being quicker is your opinion, and as neither of us (I assume) have used it, we'll see if it is quicker.

I just think there were lots of negativity about TouchID when it was announced, and look how successful that is, would Apple risk that success? I don't think so...

Ok, you unlock in your pocket for SOS, what then? You can't see what you are doing anyway.

... because it's dark and facial recognition is going to be problematic without an external light source. Or am I off-base?

But in reality how many times do you unlock your phone and not look at it?

> Because one can use TouchID for Apple Pay much quicker and more reliably

Until people actually have the phones in their hands, how can you claim this?

SOS functionality is baked in by pressing combinations of the side buttons. Way more realizable than pocket texting.

You’re not fooling anyone in meetings or at restaurants by using your phone under the table. We know you’re doing stuff with your phone. Everyone knows. Still, if you want to pretend to be slick, use the passcode.

You have no idea if faceid will be slower than Touch ID. You have no idea if faceid will limit the phone to just one user.

You’re out on some pretty weak limbs with this list of nothingburgers that goes on.

> Because it can be unlocked in your pocket for SOS use cases.

I will constantly downvote comments that make this point because unlocking your phone in your pocket is not a feature, it's a painpoint.

> Because it can be unlocked under the table or at a very low angle to be used in places such as a restaurant, meeting room, theater etc.

Do you use your phone without looking at your phone? Back when phones had buttons perhaps, but on tactile device this is almost impossible.

> Becuase TouchID actually allows multiple users on the same device if if that is not an intended feature.

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